[NFB-Science] Seeking Assistance for Statistics Class

Wed Jan 9 16:44:44 UTC 2019

Hello John,

Thank you for this information. However, it seems to contradict the information I received in a previous message. So I still find it to be rather confusing as to how to read math electronically using a screen reader. 

Since I could never figure out how to read my online math materials correctly last semester using the Math Type program, I thought maybe my problem was not having the Math Player installed as indicated in the previous message I received regarding this issue. I am simply a social science major trying to figure out the best way to complete my statistics requirement.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

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From: John Gardner [mailto:john.gardner at viewplus.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 11:09 AM
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Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Seeking Assistance for Statistics Class

Elizabeth, first of all, MathPlayer is free. MathType is not, but most academic institutions have licenses. You need MathType for reading MathType equations in Word, but you do not need MathType for reading web math.

NVDA allows you to use any Windows voice, and MS has quite a number now that are pretty good. I use one of those. If you want others, you can buy them, and somewhere on the NVDA web site is a link that lets you buy whatever voice is available. I do not know what the Jaws default voice is or whether it is available, but you should have a look.  Most people involved in STEM, computer software, etc find NVDA to be much more useful than Jaws. I have Jaws but seldom use it.

John

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Subject: Re: [NFB-Science] Seeking Assistance for Statistics Class

Hello Louis,

Thank you for your message. I find this information to be rather helpful. However, this brings about a few more questions.

I have never worked with NVDA because I cannot understand the default voice that comes with it. I have heard there is a way to change the voice to the default voice that comes with JAWS. Do you know of a legitimate way to change the NVDA default voice to the JAWS default voice? Is there any cost involved in using the JAWS default voice with NVDA?

Also, is there any cost involved in obtaining the Math Player software you described in your notes? I know that my college has the Math Type software, but I am not completely sure if they have the Math Player software. So I am wondering what might be the best way of obtaining the Math Player software if my college does not already have it.

I am borrowing a laptop computer from my college to use for my classes. So I will need to work with my college to make sure all the software I need to read the math materials as described in the attachment you sent me. Therefore, any additional information you could provide in regards to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Maher [mailto:ljmaher03 at outlook.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:49 PM
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Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Seeking Assistance for Statistics Class

Hello Elizabeth,

In the summer of 2017, the NFB sponsored a day-long seminar in accessible mathematics (http://access2science.com/indexAccessibility.html). 

One fact is that NVDA has much more mathematical accessibility than does JAWS.  I have attached a short summary of NVDA math accessibility.  This summary is also on the web page shown above.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NFB-Science] Seeking Assistance for Statistics Class

Hello All,

I hope this message finds you doing well and enjoying the New Year. I am currently enrolled in a statistics class. The good news is that my class does not require the use of SPSS. However, my professor is a bit old fashioned, and likes to use a lot of handouts for our course materials.

My professor provides all of the handouts electronically in addition to the print hard copies we receive in class. I also have a dedicated disabilities office who is willing to make sure all of the math equations and formulas in these electronic materials are accessible to me by using the Math Type program to make the math content accessible to me.

However, I have never been able to figure out how to successfully read math content element by element electronically using JAWS. My introductory math classes were totally inaccessible, so I primarily used readers and my limited use of Braille. However, if my disabilities office is able to create accessible Math ML content for me, then I would like to be able to figure out a way to read it.

The textbook we are using for my statistics class is The Basic Practice of Statistics (7th edition) by Moore, Notz, and Fligner if this information is helpful for anyone. Also, my disabilities office was able to get an epub version of this textbook from the publisher. However, I do not have any experience using this electronic format as I typically get my books from either NLS or Bookshare.

Does anyone have any experience reading books published in the epub format? If so, what will I need to do in order to read this textbook? And since I have found my textbook on Bookshare, how is the epub format different than what I can get through Bookshare?

Any information you could provide in regards to these questions as well as any other tips or advice for making it through a statistics class would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Elizabeth
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