[nfb-talk] Losing DVS

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Thu Jan 15 20:22:46 UTC 2009


I can't seem to find the note that had the URL in it.  Could you resend either to me or the list?  From what I know of the issue, I think you are mixing two separate 
issues to some degree to make your point easier to defend, but I'd like to read the reference before saying more.  I will add, though, that there is work going on to 
come up with a standard way to carry DVS information on digital TV.  When this is accomplished, I will be surprised if Wisconsin Public Television won't use it, but 
time will tell.  There was never anything, of which I am aware, that required that the SAP chanel be used for video descriptions.  In fact, in some parts of the country, 
the SAP chanel was used for radio talking book services.  The proponents of DVS may not have anticipated adequately what would happen with digital TV, but also 
the landscape of how to handle this is much more complicated than it was with analog TV.  A digital chanel can have a variable number of programs and other 
services, plus, some thought has to be given to how we as blind people are going to be able to select the service.  Since all the audio chanels and programs are 
loosely associated, pairing a given DVS chanel with the right program is not automatic as it is in analog broadcasts.  I'd like to read the article, though, and it would 
be easier if I didn't have to go search the archives.  If that is not possible, let me know about when you sent the note with the URL since the several notes from you 
that I have found on this computer don't have that information in them but I may have it at home.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:56:20 -0600, John G. Heim wrote:

>Well, fine. But how is that possible when there used to be a FCC regulation 
>that required DVS and the NFB helped that regulation be struck down in 
>court. I don't suppose you bothered to read the discussion at the URL I 
>quoted, did you? I suppose not because you're not really interested in 
>considering that I may be right.

>Otherwise, please explain to me why the NFB can be considered blameless when 
>TV and movie producers used the NFB's own statements in their argument 
>against the regulations requiring DVS.  The NFB helped the TV producers win 
>that case, right? Why then, should I not hold the NFB partially to blame for 
>losing DVS?

>It's a fair question.

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>> They're saying the NFB has little or nothing to do with what WI Public 
>> Telivision does or does not provide in any feed.
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 05:27:35PM -0500, Joel Zimba wrote:
>>> so they two of you are saying that WI Public Television is in fact 
>>> including the DVS signal in their digital feed?
>>> Joel
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