[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Bryan Schulz b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 4 17:38:52 UTC 2010 

hi,

what's that have to do with relaying another person's statement?

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again


> Hello Bryan and everyone,
>
>    I thought you were a federationist.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other people they are full 
> of
> sh$$ about various topics.
> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20 years and the 
> teams
> do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30 minutes after each run.
>
> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is completely
> capable of working on the motor but not at the same pace as sighted
> mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept that instead of being a
> weak link.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
>> Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just thirty minutes.
>> You've heard of editing right?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>
>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside of the 
>>> nfb
>>> bubble.
>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in 30 minutes.
>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air gun and
>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the team has
>>> more success when he stays out of the way and let his employees perform
>>> the rebuild.
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>
>>>
>>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't 
>>>> you
>>>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of
>>>> their own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of
>>>> anything? Oh, of course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state
>>>> provided reading radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups
>>>>> and people running everywhere.
>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
>>>>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a
>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> time limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
>>>>>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind
>>>>>> people are really like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one way
>>>>>>> to stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and
>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, 
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>> they'll get the idea.  Barring that, maybe we ought to have some
>>>>>>> competent blind people at least helping out on a make-over project;
>>>>>>> since I'm sure they wouldn't let us officially be part of what I
>>>>>>> presume bills itself as a professional make-over crew.
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand
>>>>>>> > why >  > the
>>>>>>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets > >
>>>>>>> > incidents
>>>>>>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that
>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>>>>>> this show
>>>>>>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>>> > my book.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Peter Donahue
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a >
>>>>>>> > disability
>>>>>>> > advocate.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If these
>>>>>>> >>  >> >> people
>>>>>>> >> are
>>>>>>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their >>
>>>>>>> >> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind,
>>>>>>> >> why >>  >> can't
>>>>>>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cindy
>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?
>>>>>>> >> Anyone >>  >> care
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> guess why?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Skype Name:
>>>>>>> >> barefootedray
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> Makeover:
>>>>>>> >>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested 
>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>> >>> inclusive
>>>>>>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune
>>>>>>> >>> into
>>>>>>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While 
>>>>>>> >>> we
>>>>>>> >>>  >>>  >>> can't
>>>>>>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard
>>>>>>> >>> (it >>>  >>> would
>>>>>>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much 
>>>>>>> >>> greater
>>>>>>> >>> awareness
>>>>>>> >>> of the services and products now available for people who have
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> limited or
>>>>>>> >>> no
>>>>>>> >>> sight.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Here is the information the production company has released in
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> advance
>>>>>>> >>> about
>>>>>>> >>> this episode:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
>>>>>>> >>> Anderson
>>>>>>> >>> Family
>>>>>>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to
>>>>>>> >>> action >>>  >>> when
>>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
>>>>>>> >>> obstacles
>>>>>>> >>> facing
>>>>>>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their 
>>>>>>> >>> work,
>>>>>>> >>>  >>>  >>> Andre
>>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling
>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>> >>> disabled
>>>>>>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead 
>>>>>>> >>> more
>>>>>>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the 
>>>>>>> >>> definitive
>>>>>>> >>>  >>>  >>> role
>>>>>>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never
>>>>>>> >>> let
>>>>>>> >>> anything
>>>>>>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad
>>>>>>> >>> school, >>>  >>> run a
>>>>>>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, 
>>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> all
>>>>>>> >>> while
>>>>>>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>>>>>> >>> impaired).
>>>>>>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and 
>>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Jahzion
>>>>>>> >>> were
>>>>>>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced 
>>>>>>> >>> their
>>>>>>> >>> reality.
>>>>>>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has
>>>>>>> >>> hit >>> a
>>>>>>> >>> rough
>>>>>>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>>>>>> >>> complicated
>>>>>>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> their
>>>>>>> >>> needs
>>>>>>> >>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in sight
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> when >>> Ty
>>>>>>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and Xzibit
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> deliver a
>>>>>>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> Construction
>>>>>>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give 
>>>>>>> >>> them
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> the >>> key
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> vacation
>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> Edition,"
>>>>>>> >>> now
>>>>>>> >>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Endemol
>>>>>>> >>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>> >>> David
>>>>>>> >>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs
>>>>>>> >>> Sundays >>>  >>> from
>>>>>>> >>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services
>>>>>>> >>> division >>>  >>> and a
>>>>>>> >>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
>>>>>>> >>> Family
>>>>>>> >>> National
>>>>>>> >>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered
>>>>>>> >>> captioned >>>  >>> and
>>>>>>> >>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their 
>>>>>>> >>> homes,
>>>>>>> >>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> Group
>>>>>>> >>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>>
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> technology,
>>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>>> >>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> collective
>>>>>>> >>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their 
>>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>>>>> >>> success >>> is
>>>>>>> >>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous
>>>>>>> >>> growth, >>>  >>> the
>>>>>>> >>> integration of innovative products and services into society at
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> large,
>>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>>> >>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, including 36
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> >>> million
>>>>>>> >>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low vision.
>>>>>>> >>>  >>> More
>>>>>>> >>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found 
>>>>>>> >>> at:
>>>>>>> >>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Contact:
>>>>>>> >>> Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> >>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>>>>>>> >>> 617 300-3700
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> RyanO
>>>>>>> >>>
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