[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
Ray Foret Jr
rforetjr at att.net
Sat Dec 4 19:39:09 UTC 2010
What? Peter, are you kidding us my friend? surely, 'tis to laugh. heh heh heh.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
Skype Name:
barefootedray
On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> Hello Bryan and everyone,
>
> I thought you were a federationist.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other people they are full of
> sh$$ about various topics.
> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20 years and the teams
> do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30 minutes after each run.
>
> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is completely
> capable of working on the motor but not at the same pace as sighted
> mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept that instead of being a
> weak link.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
>> Got news for you bro. There's no way it takes just thirty minutes.
>> You've heard of editing right?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>
>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside of the nfb
>>> bubble.
>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a motor in 30 minutes.
>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air gun and
>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the team has
>>> more success when he stays out of the way and let his employees perform
>>> the rebuild.
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>
>>>
>>>> And what would you propose? Leaving things the way they are? Don't you
>>>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of
>>>> their own homes? Could it be that you don't think we do much of
>>>> anything? Oh, of course. Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state
>>>> provided reading radio service. Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups
>>>>> and people running everywhere.
>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
>>>>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>>> you don't get the pace. just like there is a blind guy who owns a
>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the
>>>>> time limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea. Now if we can implement it,
>>>>>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind
>>>>>> people are really like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking. I know of only one way
>>>>>>> to stop this. What we need to do is get some independent and
>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew. Once we do that, maybe
>>>>>>> they'll get the idea. Barring that, maybe we ought to have some
>>>>>>> competent blind people at least helping out on a make-over project;
>>>>>>> since I'm sure they wouldn't let us officially be part of what I
>>>>>>> presume bills itself as a professional make-over crew.
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand
>>>>>>>> why > > the
>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets > >
>>>>>>>> incidents
>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>>>>>> this show
>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>>>> my book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a >
>>>>>>>> disability
>>>>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way. First question that came to find...If these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their >>
>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind,
>>>>>>>>> why >> >> can't
>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?
>>>>>>>>> Anyone >> >> care
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover:
>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard
>>>>>>>>>> (it >>> >>> would
>>>>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
>>>>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for people who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited or
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> sight.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company has released in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advance
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> this episode:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
>>>>>>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to
>>>>>>>>>> action >>> >>> when
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their work,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead more
>>>>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the definitive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> role
>>>>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never
>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad
>>>>>>>>>> school, >>> >>> run a
>>>>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
>>>>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and >>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced their
>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has
>>>>>>>>>> hit >>> a
>>>>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in sight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>> Ty
>>>>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and Xzibit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliver a
>>>>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
>>>>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> key
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacation
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edition,"
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of >>>
>>>>>>>>>> Endemol
>>>>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George >>>
>>>>>>>>>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs
>>>>>>>>>> Sundays >>> >>> from
>>>>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services
>>>>>>>>>> division >>> >>> and a
>>>>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
>>>>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered
>>>>>>>>>> captioned >>> >>> and
>>>>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their homes,
>>>>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group
>>>>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collective
>>>>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their >>>
>>>>>>>>>> success >>> is
>>>>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous
>>>>>>>>>> growth, >>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services into society at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, including 36
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million
>>>>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low vision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More
>>>>>>>>>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found at:
>>>>>>>>>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>>>>>> Mary Watkins
>>>>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>>>>>>>>>> 617 300-3700
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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