[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Sat Dec 4 19:35:16 UTC 2010

No Connie, it would not.  Aint nothin' but an airhead.

We can try and try and try all we want; but, the plain fact is, he aint gonna listen.

Just like his good buddy John.

Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Constance Canode wrote:

> Brian, would a crowbar open your closed mind.
> 
> Connie Canode
> At 10:05 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>> Maybe it's you who doesn't get our point.  I feel like I would make more progress convencing a brick wall.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> 
>> > everyone doesn't get the speed point.
>> > how much extra time did it take him compared to same skill of a sighted builder and how much material had to be recut?
>> >
>> > Bryan Schulz
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >
>> >
>> >> We have a very close friend, totally blind who can do just about anything. He repairs cars, he remodeled his basement, rebuilding the steps, and recently built us a porch on the back of our house.  He built a beautiful deck on his own house and did it single-handedly.  He does electrical work, plumbing and just about anything else you can name.  I wish my husband could do what he can do.  It would have saved us a ton of money years ago before I knew him.  Of course we paid for the porch, but since he is a friend, we made a good deal.  Never under-estimate the ability of a competent blind person.  With the right tools and knowledge, you can do whatever you choose.
>> >>
>> >> Connie Canode
>> >> At 09:13 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>> >>> Brian,
>> >>>
>> >>> Get a life.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Gloria Whipple
>> >>> Corresponding Secretary
>> >>> Inland Empire chapter
>> >>> nfb of WA
>> >>>
>> >>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> >>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
>> >>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >>>
>> >>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't you
>> >>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of their
>> >>> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of anything?  Oh, of
>> >>> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided reading
>> >>> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Skype Name:
>> >>> barefootedray
>> >>>
>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > wishful thinking...
>> >>> > people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>> >>> > a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups > and
>> >>> people running everywhere.
>> >>> > you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
>> >>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>> >>> > you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a > racing
>> >>> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
>> >>> limits.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Bryan Schulz
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>> >>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
>> >>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind people are
>> >>> really like.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Connie Canode
>> >>> >> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>> >>> >>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one way >>> to
>> >>> stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and competent blind
>> >>> people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get the idea.
>> >>> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at least
>> >>> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
>> >>> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
>> >>> make-over crew.
>> >>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Skype Name:
>> >>> >>> barefootedray
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> > Hello John and everyone,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>> >>> >>> experience
>> >>> >>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand >>> > why
>> >>> > the
>> >>> >>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>> >>> >>> to portray
>> >>> >>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>> >>> >>> modifications to the
>> >>> >>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets >
>> >>> incidents
>> >>> >>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>> >>> >>> continue to
>> >>> >>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that >>> > the
>> >>> >>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>> >>> >>> this show
>> >>> >>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>> >>> >>> continues
>> >>> >>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>> >>> >>> suspect in
>> >>> >>> > my book.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Peter Donahue
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>> >>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
>> >>> disability
>> >>> >>> > advocate.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>> >>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If these >>> >>  >>
>> >>> people
>> >>> >>> >> are
>> >>> >>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
>> >>> disabilities, >> and
>> >>> >>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind, >>> >> why
>> >>> >> can't
>> >>> >>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Cindy
>> >>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> >>> >>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>> >>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle? >>> >> Anyone
>> >>> >> care
>> >>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >>> >> guess why?
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>> >>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Skype Name:
>> >>> >>> >> barefootedray
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>> >>> >>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S >>> >>>  >>>
>> >>> "Extreme
>> >>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme >>> >>>  >>>
>> >>> Makeover:
>> >>> >>> >>> Home Edition"
>> >>> >>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
>> >>> >>> >>> inclusive
>> >>> >>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune >>> >>> into
>> >>> >>> >>> "Extreme
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>> >>> >>> can't
>> >>> >>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard >>> >>> (it
>> >>> >>> would
>> >>> >>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
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>> >>> >>> >>> of the services and products now available for people who have >>> >>>  >>>
>> >>> limited or
>> >>> >>> >>> no
>> >>> >>> >>> sight.
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> Here is the information the production company has released in >>> >>>  >>>
>> >>> advance
>> >>> >>> >>> about
>> >>> >>> >>> this episode:
>> >>> >>> >>>
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>> >>> >>> when
>> >>> >>> >>> they
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>> >>> >>> >>> and
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>> >>> >>> >>>
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