[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Sun Dec 5 01:51:39 UTC 2010

You people are a bunch of hypocrits. You don't know a damn thing about  
Brian except that he has an opinion that differs from your own.

Hey, brian, just ignore the insults. That's how you show these people  
what a real, strong, independent blind person is. Don't let them  
intimidate you.

On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Gloria Whipple wrote:

> Brian,
>
> Get a life.
>
>
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
> Inland Empire chapter
> nfb of WA
>
> cell number: 509-475-4993
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk- 
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't  
> you
> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building  
> of their
> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of  
> anything?  Oh, of
> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided  
> reading
> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
>> wishful thinking...
>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f- 
>> ups and
> people running everywhere.
>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a  
>> racing
> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
> limits.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>
>>
>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement  
>>> it,
> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind  
> people are
> really like.
>>>
>>> Connie Canode
>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one  
>>>> way to
> stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and competent  
> blind
> people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get  
> the idea.
> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at  
> least
> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let  
> us
> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> make-over crew.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>   If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>>> experience
>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd  
>>>>> understand why
>> the
>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>>> to portray
>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>> modifications to the
>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets >
> incidents
>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>>> continue to
>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove  
>>>>> that the
>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>>> this show
>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>>> continues
>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>>> suspect in
>>>>> my book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
> disability
>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If  
>>>>>> these >>
> people
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind,  
>>>>>> why
>>> can't
>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?   
>>>>>> Anyone
>>> care
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into  
>>>>>>> ABC'S >>>
> "Extreme
>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S  
>>>>>>> "Extreme >>>
> Makeover:
>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested  
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune  
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While  
>>>>>>> we
>>>> can't
>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and  
>>>>>>> heard (it
>>>> would
>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much  
>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for people who have  
>>>>>>> >>>
> limited or
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> sight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company has released in  
>>>>>>> >>>
> advance
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> this episode:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the  
>>>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to  
>>>>>>> action
>>>> when
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the  
>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their  
>>>>>>> work,
>>>> Andre
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead  
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the  
>>>>>>> definitive
>>>> role
>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never  
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad  
>>>>>>> school,
>>>> run a
>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group,  
>>>>>>> and
> all
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>>>>>> impaired).
>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
> Jahzion
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced  
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has  
>>>>>>> hit a
>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
> their
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in  
>>>>>>> sight when
>>>> Ty
>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and  
>>>>>>> Xzibit >>>
> deliver a
>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
> Construction
>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give  
>>>>>>> them
> the >>> key
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will  
>>>>>>> >>>
> vacation
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home  
>>>>>>> >>>
> Edition,"
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of  
>>>>>>> Endemol
>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George  
>>>>>>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs  
>>>>>>> Sundays
>>>> from
>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services  
>>>>>>> division
>>>> and a
>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro  
>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered  
>>>>>>> captioned
>>>> and
>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their  
>>>>>>> homes,
>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access  
>>>>>>> Group
>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>>
> technology,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
> collective
>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their
> success >>> is
>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous  
>>>>>>> growth,
>>>> the
>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services into society  
>>>>>>> at >>>
> large,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, including 36  
>>>>>>> >>>
> million
>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low  
>>>>>>> vision. More
>>>>>>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found  
>>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>>> Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>>>>>>> 617 300-3700
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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