[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
Michael Hingson
info at michaelhingson.com
Sun Dec 5 02:27:26 UTC 2010
All,
Let's calm down a bit. Whether or not a blind person can or is working in
an construction arena now certainly doesn't mean it cannot happen in the
future. It matters not the pace or the complexity.
The more we learn, the more surprises we find insofar as what blind people
can do. However, there is nothing wrong with each of us having our own
opinions. I am not going to presume who is right or wrong and neither
should ANY of you.
We have seen accomplishments this century unimagined by blind people only 30
years ago. Even 40 years ago none of us would have thought we could buy a
totally portable machine for $1,800 which could read virtually any print.
Next January a blind person will independently drive a car. Many still
don't believe it will happen and others think it is a misuse of funds and
time. I disagree that is a misuse of funds and time, but I respect others'
opinions on the subject. As Michael Blumberg put it a few months ago, "I
respect anyones right to be wrong", (grin).
Brian is entitled to his opinion and he may be right for now. In the
future, who knows, but he also may be wrong now. If you think he is, prove
it but don't slam him.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of John Heim
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:52 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
You people are a bunch of hypocrits. You don't know a damn thing about
Brian except that he has an opinion that differs from your own.
Hey, brian, just ignore the insults. That's how you show these people
what a real, strong, independent blind person is. Don't let them
intimidate you.
On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Gloria Whipple wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Get a life.
>
>
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
> Inland Empire chapter
> nfb of WA
>
> cell number: 509-475-4993
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
> And what would you propose? Leaving things the way they are? Don't
> you
> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building
> of their
> own homes? Could it be that you don't think we do much of
> anything? Oh, of
> course. Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided
> reading
> radio service. Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
>> wishful thinking...
>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-
>> ups and
> people running everywhere.
>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>> you don't get the pace. just like there is a blind guy who owns a
>> racing
> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
> limits.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>
>>
>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea. Now if we can implement
>>> it,
> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind
> people are
> really like.
>>>
>>> Connie Canode
>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking. I know of only one
>>>> way to
> stop this. What we need to do is get some independent and competent
> blind
> people on the make over crew. Once we do that, maybe they'll get
> the idea.
> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at
> least
> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let
> us
> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> make-over crew.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>>> experience
>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
>>>>> understand why
>> the
>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>>> to portray
>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>> modifications to the
>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets >
> incidents
>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>>> continue to
>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove
>>>>> that the
>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>>> this show
>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>>> continues
>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>>> suspect in
>>>>> my book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
> disability
>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel the same way. First question that came to find...If
>>>>>> these >>
> people
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind,
>>>>>> why
>>> can't
>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?
>>>>>> Anyone
>>> care
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into
>>>>>>> ABC'S >>>
> "Extreme
>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>>>>> "Extreme >>>
> Makeover:
>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While
>>>>>>> we
>>>> can't
>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and
>>>>>>> heard (it
>>>> would
>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much
>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for people who have
>>>>>>> >>>
> limited or
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> sight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company has released in
>>>>>>> >>>
> advance
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> this episode:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
>>>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to
>>>>>>> action
>>>> when
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their
>>>>>>> work,
>>>> Andre
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the
>>>>>>> definitive
>>>> role
>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad
>>>>>>> school,
>>>> run a
>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group,
>>>>>>> and
> all
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>>>>>> impaired).
>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
> Jahzion
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has
>>>>>>> hit a
>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
> their
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in
>>>>>>> sight when
>>>> Ty
>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and
>>>>>>> Xzibit >>>
> deliver a
>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
> Construction
>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give
>>>>>>> them
> the >>> key
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will
>>>>>>> >>>
> vacation
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home
>>>>>>> >>>
> Edition,"
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of
>>>>>>> Endemol
>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George
>>>>>>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs
>>>>>>> Sundays
>>>> from
>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services
>>>>>>> division
>>>> and a
>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered
>>>>>>> captioned
>>>> and
>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their
>>>>>>> homes,
>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access
>>>>>>> Group
>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>>
> technology,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
> collective
>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their
> success >>> is
>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous
>>>>>>> growth,
>>>> the
>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services into society
>>>>>>> at >>>
> large,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, including 36
>>>>>>> >>>
> million
>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low
>>>>>>> vision. More
>>>>>>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found
>>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>>> Mary Watkins
>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>>>>>>> 617 300-3700
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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