[nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 20 03:40:55 UTC 2010


Good evening everyone,

Add quiet cars in to the mix and you have a recipe for suaside. No thanks!

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tanna G. Shoyo" <tshoyo at neb.rr.com>
To: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB


I find those traffic signals to be more of a pain in the neck then helpful.
That would be one extra thing that our tax dollars would be paying for.

Tanna Shoyo
Lincoln, NE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB


> and that is why drivers must always yield to a person with a guide dog or
> white cane -- but of course drivers make mistakes too...and sometimes they
> don't study the driver's manual...but those same drivers also don't pay
> attention to traffic signals, right?
> Go flame on another list. You've already filled enough mailboxes on this
> topic several rounds over.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:49 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB
>
>
> from
>
> http://nfb.org/legacy/bm/bm03/bm0301/bm030103.htm
>
>
>
> -- begin quote --
>
> Mike Freeman: "We didn't need audible pedestrian signals, nor did we need
> detectable warnings to walk the streets with safety and grace."
>
>
>
> -- end quote --
>
>
> Man, this really steams my wheaties. I was recently in San Rafael,
> California getting a new guide dog from GDB. After one night training
> session, the instructor told us that about half of the students crossed
> against the light at a particular intercection. These are people with
> proven
> mobility skills as GDB checks that out before the admit students.
>
> The point is that anyone can make a mistake.  You might think that as new
> guide dog trainees, the students were distracted or not at their best. But
> that's not unusual. People are sometimes distracted or distressed and they
> cross streets anyway. That's life.
>
> People aren't perfect. They make mistakes. Most likely, everyone reading
> this message has crossed against the lights at one time or another. And
> even
> if you haven't, others have. You may be perfect but that doesn't mean you
> should dismiss the needs of those who aren't.
>
> The truth is that audible walk signals make us safer. The NFB, with its
> bizarre, capricious policies has helped make this world less safe for the
> very people it is supposed to protect.
>
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