[nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to Blind Folks

Ray Foret Jr rforetjr at att.net
Sun Dec 18 14:55:49 UTC 2011


While understand that, not labeling the feilds should not at all be overlooked.  Just suppose a visitor to the sight did not know what you just told us?  This oversight does need to be dealt with.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:

> It's ordered like others.
> Name, E-mail, and message.
> They aren't labeled, like you said, but that's what he wants.
> Blessings, Joshua
> 
> On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> Wel, took a look at the contact form.  The text feilds are not labeled, so,
>> I cannot tell what he wants entered in to them.  I like the math problem
>> though.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 18, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>> 
>>> Right.
>>> That math problem is one such idea, as I mentioned.
>>> I'll let you visit the Website, and have you check out the contact form.
>>> http://www.aawalker.org
>>> He ought to get an anual award from the NFB, for most accessible Website!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> 
>>> On 12/18/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>> 
>>>>   There are also utilities for particular Web environments which can be
>>>> installed that eliminate the need for captchas all together. Keep in mind
>>>> that audio captchas won't work for deaf-blind persons shutting them out
>>>> of
>>>> many Web-based applications and denying them access to particular site
>>>> content.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable
>>>> and
>>>> Accessible to Blind Folks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ray, one of my preacher friends has an accessible contact form.
>>>> He has a semple math problem for you to answer, to prove that you
>>>> aren't a spammer.
>>>> It's a very good alternative to the captchas.
>>>> I've dealt with these issues on all of the lists.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hate to tel you, but; so far as I am aware, Solona no longer works
>>>>> because
>>>>> the one person who was doing the captcha translations became ill and
>>>>> basically, shut down the service sort of quietly.  Seems he couldn't get
>>>>> any
>>>>> other human beings to help with the captcha translations.  I guess you
>>>>> could
>>>>> say he sort of just droped it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So far as I am aware, Webvisum is the only way for a bind person to
>>>>> translate captchas, and, it must be used with Firefox under Windows;
>>>>> thus,
>>>>> leaving Mac users to rely either on what ever alternative audio solution
>>>>> any
>>>>> given web site provides or nothing at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ashley.
>>>>>> I was offended at the language, as well.
>>>>>> I understand where he's coming from though.
>>>>>> I'm not against sighted people, but their ignorance of what we go
>>>>>> through.
>>>>>> Ryan, as for the captchas, a friend of mine, on the NABS list told me
>>>>>> about an online service, that you could use, to read your captchas.
>>>>>> It's free, BTW.
>>>>>> www.solona.net
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/17/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>> Thanks. I was kind of offended by his message due to the langue and
>>>>>>> sarcastic attitude toward sighted people. We all have sighted friends
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> family.
>>>>>>> Unless you live alone or with a blind spouse, you probably have
>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>> family members. Get over it; it’s a sighted, visual world and adapt to
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> I'll post my ideas for a visual pleasing home soon. I have some vision
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see the importance of visual stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: David Andrews
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:21 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to
>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>> Folks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ryan:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have warned you previously about posting profane and inappropriate
>>>>>>> messages.  It doesn't seem to matter though, as you keep doing
>>>>>>> it.  Thus, I am placing you on moderated status.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We all understand that it is frustrating being blind, and things
>>>>>>> aren't always easy.    This is in part why we have this
>>>>>>> list.  However, your message isn't constructive and while it may make
>>>>>>> you feel better, I doubt it helped anyone else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David Andrews, Moderator
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At 04:07 PM 12/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jimbo:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Next time your friends come over and bitch about the lack of light,
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "You know what," (insert name) "...You know what? Every freakin' day,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> up and move around in a sighted world. I work on a finite schedule
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> aid of public transit because I can't drive. If the bus or train is
>>>>>>>> late...so am I. If inclement weather strikes, I don't get in my car
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>> on the windshield wipers. I freeze my nuts off in the rain or snow
>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can get on a bus. When I go shopping, I pray to God that I can land a
>>>>>>>> shopper's assistant who is, at the very least, literate. If they
>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>> English, it makes my day. If they speak English fluently...Jesus,
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> known to weep with joy. If I shop on line, I'll be lucky if capcha,
>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>> graphics and flash don't give me a migraine that could floor Robin
>>>>>>>> Williams
>>>>>>>> on a coke binge!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry if I seem a little grumpy. I just came from a job for which I'm
>>>>>>>> vastly
>>>>>>>> over-qualified. I have a freakin' master's degree in mathematics, or
>>>>>>>> genetics, or whatever, but every institution/company at which I apply
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> by sighted pricks who have figured out a way not to hire me. God
>>>>>>>> bless
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> ADA and the well-intentioned, ignorant bastards who sleep better at
>>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>> for having passed it. And God bless social security, who is still
>>>>>>>> haunting
>>>>>>>> my ass four years later because I forgot to report the income I made
>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>> a cash register so that I could put bread on the table in between
>>>>>>>> college
>>>>>>>> semesters.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It makes a guy wonder if Walter White didn't have a point. Screw it!
>>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>>> blind people be meth cookers? You ever see Breaking Bad? You
>>>>>>>> know...it's
>>>>>>>> that super good crime show on AMC that doesn't air with description
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> Hollywood is too God damn cheap to give us description with all of
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> content, even though they can well afford to do so with minimal
>>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You want friggin' light bulbs? Drive to the store and grab a few
>>>>>>>> boxes.
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> take you myself, but I haven't won the Power Ball yet and can't
>>>>>>>> afford
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> self-driving car. But let me give you directions. Siri! Work! C'mon,
>>>>>>>> damn
>>>>>>>> it! What's the nearest Wal-Mart? Flashlight? Who are you kidding?
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> friggin' flashlight? Just use my cigar lighter to light your way to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> door. Pick me up a new can of butane on the way back. Yes, I smoke
>>>>>>>> cigars.
>>>>>>>> No, I'm not amazing. Dealing with your ignorant ass makes me wanna
>>>>>>>> smoke
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> right now. No, I don't need help lighting it. Get your damn hands off
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> before Mr. Fist meets Mr. Sack!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's your world and you're the king. Every day, I get up and I don't
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> live. I thrive, brother. Grow the hell up!"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then, out loud you can say:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Umm, sure thing, man. Sorry for my insensitivity to your situation.
>>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> drive me to the nearest Safeway to grab a few bulbs? And hey...can we
>>>>>>>> swing
>>>>>>>> through for a Big Mac on the way home?"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now, Jimbo, I've been assuming that the people in question are men.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are women, just say:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Lights? Honey, for what we're gonna be doin', we don't need no
>>>>>>>> freakin'
>>>>>>>> lights."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sexist and boorish, but oh so true.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40students.pccua.edu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40att.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40students.pccua.edu
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40students.pccua.edu
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nfb-talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40att.net
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nfb-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40students.pccua.edu
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nfb-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40att.net




More information about the nFB-Talk mailing list