[nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk toRepublicans.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sat Dec 22 23:39:08 UTC 2012


Well, this list isn't supposed to be separated by party anyway!  If we start 
doing that, we'll split ourselves!  I would rqather stand unified if 
possible and sometimes I have to put those party lines aside and vote for 
what or who has the best intentions for helping us as the blind of the 
country!  Although, I do have to stand by my earlier comment that most of 
the trouble blind folks have with government is that which the republican 
party brings!  I have watched both parties govern this state and find that 
most of the unrest occurs then!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk toRepublicans.RE: 
nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43


> Well Josh, I posted a more direct reply to Robert and the list which, I 
> hope, will serve to answer your question.  All the list I think, knows my 
> personal political leanings, but, frankly, the other message I left is an 
> effort to keep that out of this.
>
> Read what I said carefully, and, you'll see why.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Joshua Lester 
> <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay?
>> Where's the other side's oppinion?
>> I want this to be fair and balanced, like Fox News!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Robert Ortiz 
>> [bobby7391 at optimum.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:53 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk to Republicans.RE: 
>> nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Don't you remember when President G.W. Bush (Or Baby Blue, as I like to 
>> call
>> him) traveled around America in early 2005 while advocating that Social
>> Security should be Privatized, either partially or completely?  The
>> Republican party has been for years dreaming of stealing the two trillion
>> dollars in the SS trust fund and handing it to Wall Street who will 
>> invest
>> it in the riskiest craziest derivatives they can invent.  Doesn't anyone
>> remember the banking collapse of 2008?
>>
>> So what do you think will happen to Social Security in the long term if 
>> that
>> happens?   Or isn't it obvious?  Also, whenever any republican politician
>> has been asked over the last decade if the republicans would consider 
>> giving
>> governmental garantees to the beneficiaries of privatized personalized
>> Social Security accounts, they have ALL WITHOUT EXEMPTION said ABSOLUTELY
>> NO.  So what does that mean?  Well it is very clear.  They, the 
>> Republicans,
>> want to use our Social Security FICA insurance which we paid for, invest 
>> it
>> in toilet paper investments, milk those investments for all they can, and
>> then throw us under the bus when those "investments" inevitably go bust.
>> And if those aren't convincing enough reasons why we shouldn't  talk to
>> republicans on this issue, then I don't know what reasons would be.
>>
>> Also,  I also wanted to clarify something.  I didn't say that the failure 
>> to
>> negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff by January 1st would automatically
>> effect anyone's social security check now.  I think maybe my previous
>> posting was a little misunderstood.
>>
>> I was trying to explain that for the last three days, President and House
>> Minority leader Nancy Palosi have both said that they are willing to cut 
>> the
>> COLA Cost of Living Adjustment on
>> Social Security beneficiaries by 0.3 percent.  I know this doesn't sound
>> like much, but it is a terribly frightening prospect for several reasons.
>>
>> 1( It would be the first time since the creation of Social Security that
>> direct monthly benefits would have been cut AT ALL.
>>
>> 2)  this minimum sounding cut is also accumulative.  In about 10 years or
>> less, every SSDI recipient will be receiving about an average of $1000.00
>> less annually.  Can any of us afford that?  I know I can't.  So this is a
>> real cut, and not some kind of Consumer Pricing Index readjustment as 
>> many
>> are now claiming.
>>
>> And 3)  This first historic cut to Social Security benefits will open the
>> DOOR WIDE OPEN to restricting and maybe privatizing Social Security which
>> would eventually doom the entire trust fund.  And if you need proof of 
>> that,
>> then study what has happened to retirement benefit programs in Latin
>> American countries  whenever those countries have privatized or been 
>> forced
>> to privatize their retirement benefit programs.  This craziness has all 
>> been
>> tried before to desasterous effects.
>>
>> Of course, no one's checks will disappear immediately, but the long term
>> damage to Social Security may or probably will become UNREPAIRABLE!  So 
>> that
>> is why we should worry about how these fiscal cliff negotiations are 
>> going
>> and exactly what the final shape of any deal looks like.  It isn't just 
>> our
>> long term future that's at stake, but what about when our kids retire or 
>> God
>> forbid become disabled like us?
>>
>> Finally, I myself am not trying to scare anyone.  Besides, I think the 
>> above
>> facts are scary enough.
>>
>> Sincerely, Robert Ortiz
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
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>>   1. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>>   2. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:55:11 -0600
>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> Message-ID: <004401cddfce$3bb16170$b3142450$@charter.net>
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>>
>> Chris, don't you mean House Majority Leader, John Boehner, pronounced 
>> Baner?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:45 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> This may be more of a political issue than anything, but I'm just 
>> wondering
>> why you wouldn't recommend that we contact Republican leaders in 
>> Congress,
>> especially House majority leader John Weiner?
>> After all, they are involved in the negotiations just as much as the
>> Democrats are, and they need to know how we feel as well. Now, if this is 
>> an
>> inappropriate topics for list, or if it is a political issue for you and 
>> you
>> don't want to talk to the Republicans, I understand that.
>> Just curious.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the NFB
>>> and I wanted to answer that question.  A WHOLE DAMN LOT ESPECIALLY TO
>>> ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI!  If an agreement isn't reached by
>>> January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff" which I'm praying for,
>>> then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED!  But if President Obama and
>>> Nancy Palosi continue to offer the damn republicans a cut in the
>>> Annual Cost of Living Adjustment COLA for all Social Security
>>> recipients, as they have done over the last few days; then all of us
>>> blind SSDI recipients will experience our first real cut in our Social
>> Security benefits.  And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>>> Disability Insurance.   And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work 
>>> lives
>>> to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE!  That's right IT'S INSURANCE WE
>>> PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>>>
>>> So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have done.
>>> Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>>> representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority leader
>>> Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and President Obama to
>>> please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>  1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and    Sequestration
>>>     (Kenneth Chrane)
>>>  2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>     Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>>>  3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>     Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>,    "NFB of Maryland
>>>   e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>   Sequestration
>>> Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Email
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> deficit.
>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>> solving tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts known
>>> as
>> sequester.
>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of Americans
>>> would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>>> our nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage
>>> we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must have
>>> a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our debt and
>>> still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social contract
>>> between the American people and their government.  Medicare and
>>> Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or block-granted.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid the
>>> fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by
>>> letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more
>>> than
>> $250,000 per year.
>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can also
>>> make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military and
>>> domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I
>>> supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would
>>> require $900 billion in cuts over
>>> 10 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the loss
>>> of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state economy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent the
>>> fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>> United States Senator
>>>
>>>
>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating e-mail
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>   Sequestration
>>> Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>> Sequestration
>>>
>>> Email
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> deficit.
>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>> solving tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts known
>>> as
>> sequester.
>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of Americans
>>> would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>>> our nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage
>>> we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must have
>>> a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our debt and
>>> still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social contract
>>> between the American people and their government.  Medicare and
>>> Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or block-granted.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid the
>>> fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by
>>> letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more
>>> than
>> $250,000 per year.
>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can also
>>> make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military and
>>> domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I
>>> supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would
>>> require $900 billion in cuts over
>>> 10 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the loss
>>> of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state economy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent the
>>> fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>> United States Senator
>>>
>>>
>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating e-mail
>>> account is not monitored.
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>>> comments page of my website here.
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>   Sequestration
>>> Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Rehab funding.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>> Sequestration
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>>> deficit.
>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>> solving
>>>> tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>>>> known as
>> sequester.
>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of Americans
>>> would
>>>> see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring our
>>>> nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage we
>>>> do to
>>> ourselves
>>>> and the economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must have
>>>> a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our debt and
>>>> still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social contract
>>>> between the American people and their government.  Medicare and
>>>> Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or block-granted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid the
>>> fiscal
>>>> cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by letting the
>>>> 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>>>> $250,000 per
>>> year.
>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can also
>>>> make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military and
>>>> domestic -
>>> that
>>>> will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I supported the Budget
>>> Control
>>>> Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion in
>>>> cuts
>>> over
>>>> 10 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the loss
>>>> of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent the
>>> fiscal
>>>> cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending policy
>>>> to reduce our national debt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>> assistance to you
>>> in
>>>> the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>> United States Senator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating e-mail
>>>> account is not monitored.
>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>> E-Newsletter
>>>> here.
>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:58:49 -0600
>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
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>> Chris,
>>
>> The problem in this country is not the revenue coming in, but the 
>> spending.
>> Based on this, our Government needs to be responsible enough to look at 
>> cuts
>> across the board and this includes SSA benefits.  My hope that if a
>> compromise canot be reached, all programs will be looked at equally as 
>> far
>> as cuts.  I have read that implementing a 1% cut across the board in all
>> Federal programs could get us out of this mess, but no one will pull that
>> proverbial trigger.  Needless to say, chances are that the COLA for SSA
>> benefits would be ended just for starters.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:36 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> Although this is merely speculation at this point, I agree with you.
>> If an agreement is not reached by January 1, and even if an agreement is
>> reached on this fiscal cliff issue, some  government programs will most
>> likely be either cut or eliminated. However, it seems that most 
>> politicians
>> think Social Security is an important program, and most of the people 
>> I've
>> heard say they don't want to touch that program. So, I think those of you 
>> on
>> SSI or SSDI will not be affected. Still, it might be good to keep an eye 
>> on
>> this issue.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that those of us on SSI and social security will receive our
>> checks.  Pay no attention to scare tactis which may try to make you think
>> otherwise.  Now, perhaps however, this may have a negative effect on long
>> term funding of educational programs; which, of course, would not be 
>> good.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the NFB
>>>> and I wanted to answer that question.  A WHOLE DAMN LOT ESPECIALLY TO
>>>> ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI!  If an agreement isn't reached by
>>>> January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff" which I'm praying for,
>>>> then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED!  But if President Obama and
>>>> Nancy Palosi continue to offer the damn republicans a cut in the
>>>> Annual Cost of Living Adjustment COLA for all Social Security
>>>> recipients, as they have done over the last few days; then all of us
>>>> blind SSDI recipients will experience our first real cut in our
>>>> Social
>> Security benefits.  And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>>>> Disability Insurance.   And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work
>> lives
>>>> to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE!  That's right IT'S INSURANCE WE
>>>> PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>>>>
>>>> So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have done.
>>>> Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>>>> representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority leader
>>>> Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and President Obama
>>>> to please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:00 PM
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and    Sequestration
>>>>    (Kenneth Chrane)
>>>> 2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>>    Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>>>> 3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>>    Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>,    "NFB of Maryland
>>>>   e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>   Sequestration
>>>> Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> deficit.
>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>>> solving tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid
>>>> the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>> known as sequester.
>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of Americans
>>>> would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>>>> our nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage
>>>> we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must have
>>>> a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our debt and
>>>> still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social contract
>>>> between the American people and their government.  Medicare and
>>>> Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or block-granted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid the
>>>> fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by
>>>> letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more
>>>> than
>> $250,000 per year.
>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can also
>>>> make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military and
>>>> domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I
>>>> supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>>>> would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>> 10 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the loss
>>>> of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent the
>>>> fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>> United States Senator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating e-mail
>>>> account is not monitored.
>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>>>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>>   Sequestration
>>>> Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>> Sequestration
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> deficit.
>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>>> solving tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid
>>>> the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>> known as sequester.
>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of Americans
>>>> would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>>>> our nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage
>>>> we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must have
>>>> a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our debt and
>>>> still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social contract
>>>> between the American people and their government.  Medicare and
>>>> Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or block-granted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid the
>>>> fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by
>>>> letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more
>>>> than
>> $250,000 per year.
>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can also
>>>> make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military and
>>>> domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I
>>>> supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>>>> would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>> 10 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the loss
>>>> of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent the
>>>> fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>> United States Senator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating e-mail
>>>> account is not monitored.
>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff    and
>>>>   Sequestration
>>>> Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Rehab funding.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>
>>>>> Email
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>>>> deficit.
>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable of
>>>> solving
>>>>> tough problems.  That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>>>>> known
>> as sequester.
>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>> Americans
>>>> would
>>>>> see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring our
>>>>> nation back into recession.  The longer we delay the more damage we
>>>>> do to
>>>> ourselves
>>>>> and the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple.  We must
>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>> debt and still grow the economy.  We must also protect the social
>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.  Medicare
>>>>> and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted or
>> block-granted.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>> the
>>>> fiscal
>>>>> cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way.  We can start by letting the
>>>>> 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>>>>> $250,000 per
>>>> year.
>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years.  We can
>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military
>>>>> and domestic -
>>>> that
>>>>> will begin to reduce our deficit.  That's why I supported the Budget
>>>> Control
>>>>> Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion in
>>>>> cuts
>>>> over
>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts to
>>>>> get us to a balanced budget.  It would unfairly harm middle-class
>>>>> families and do nothing to raise the additional revenue needed to
>>>>> reduce the deficit.  In Maryland alone, this could result in the
>>>>> loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion to our state 
>>>>> economy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>> the
>>>> fiscal
>>>>> cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me.  Knowing of your views is
>>>>> very important to me.  Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>> assistance to you
>>>> in
>>>>> the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>> E-Newsletter
>>>>> here.
>>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>>
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