[nfb-talk] Here he comes...

[Larry Wayland]

We hope he deals with them and doesn't just kick them to the curb.
He reminds me of that old Children's story about the emperor  with his New
Clothes.   Everyone will be afraid to tell him everything is not the way he
wants it to be.


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That's certainly true, and you need an aggressive press.  Trump needs to
grow up and get over his anger towards the media, because he will be dealing
with them every day for the next 4 years.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Heim via nfb-talk
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 2:39 PM
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Trump was complaining about an estimate that put the attendance for his
inauguration at only 250,000.  The NYT and CNN web sites have photographs
that show the crowd last Friday was much smaller than that for President
Obama in 2009 or even for the protest march the day after the inauguration.

It doesn't have to be like this. Other politicians have made mistakes.
There was the time Hillary Clinton claimed she had had to dodge sniper fire
at an airport overseass while serving as First Lady. Video of her getting
off the plane showed her walking calmly up to a little girl and accepting a
bouquet. What had happened was that she had conflated news reports of
snipers somewhere nearby with what happened to her. I have little doubt
that's what happened with President Trump when he said Moslems in New Jersey
celebrated in the streets on 911. He got mixed up with reports of people in
egypt and Iran celebrating on 911.  When Hillary Clinton was shown evidence
that she hadn't been under sniper fire, she said she must have misremembered
and apologized. Donald Trump claimed the media was out to get him.

It is important for those of us who love the United States to not give in to
this garbage about the free press not being trustworthy.  They make
mistakes. Sometimes they are slanted. But we've survived these
inperfections, and that is all they are, for over 200 years. It's every
American's patriotic duty to not give into this stuff.

On 01/23/2017 12:30 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
> How big was the inauguration crowd? From the TV coverage / cheering 
> afte the swearing-in, it sounded pretty big...
>
> To add to your "free press" comment, did you hear Ms. Conway's 
> "alternative facts" statement last night? I didn't know whether to 
> laugh or cry...
>
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> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Heim via nfb-talk
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> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:34 PM
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> Cc: John Heim <john at johnheim.com>
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> The myth the free press cannot be trusted comes primarily from 
> conservatives, but I will acknowledge some liberals are just as bad.
>
> No matter where it comes from, The point is it's just an excuse people 
> give for believing what they want to believe; this is Un-American. 
> Right now, for purely political purposes, President Trump is trying to 
> undermine confidence in the  free press. He doesn't want to believe 
> his inauguration didn't set an attendance record, so purely for his 
> own political gain, he is undermining confidence in the free press; I 
> say that is an act of disloyalty to the United States Of America.
>
>
> On 01/23/2017 10:51 AM, Marianne Haas via nfb-talk wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> I respectfully disagree with you regarding the press.  I listen to 
>> both conservatives and liberals and then make up my mind.  I also 
>> listen to programs on the internet from other countries.  Sometimes, 
>> I get more balanced information about the US from listening to 
>> stations from other countries.I feel that both sides, conservatives 
>> and liberals, accuse the other side of faux news.  I feel that we 
>> have to listen to different stations and points of view to get a 
>> balanced picture of what is going on.
>>
>> Let me share about what one of my good friends said:
>> This man was in the classified world in the military.  He saw a lot 
>> of things that were contrary of what we hear.  Some of it he still 
>> cannot
> talk
>> about as it is still classified.  He often says that he does not 
>> believe what the Government says until it is officially denied.  By 
>> the way, he
> did
>> not vote for Trump either.
>>
>> I do not want to say this to be divisive.  I believe in civilized 
>> conversations, both in person and in emails.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marianne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John 
>> Heim via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 8:06 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here he comes...
>>
>> The idea that the free press can't be trusted is bullstuffpromoted by
> people
>> who don't like the truth. And it's Un-American bullstuff at that.
>> Democracy cannot work without a free press. When you tell people they
> can't
>> trust the free press, you're telling them that they can't possibly 
>> have
> any
>> way to know which way to vote. That's Un-American.
>>
>> This is just a myth fostered by conservatives  who think anybody who
> doesn't
>> automatically agree with them is a liberal. If you insist on actually
> having
>> facts before making up your mind, that makes you a liberal.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/22/2017 09:30 PM, Gail the U. S. Male via nfb-talk wrote:
>>> See, my point exactly!  You shouldn't believe everything you read on 
>>> facebook. Or, anywhere on the net without substantiating it first, 
>>> using reputable sources, which the press isn't! They're mostly rabid 
>>> liberals!  I went through that same indoctrination in College 
>>> journalism classes, but was smart enough to see through all the manure.
>>>
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>>>
>>> Snopes says this rumor, that Trump's "Make America Great Again" hats 
>>> were made overseas, is false:
>>> http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-hat-china/
>>>
>>> Snopes is a great source for more info on this kind of thing. That 
>>> explanation has the ring of truth. Somebody in China is making hats 
>>> that say, "Make America Great Again", but not Trump.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/22/2017 02:47 PM, ed meskys via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>> My wife read on Facebook that the Trump "make america great again"
>>>> hats were made in Viet Nam. Why is he sending work overseas? How is 
>>>> that making America great?
>>>> Ed Meskys
>>>>
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