[nfb-talk] Washington Post: Trump ordered Braille removed from elevators in Trump Tower according to execs

Thu Sep 13 21:16:15 UTC 2018

Devin, what you are saying is un-American. As citizens in a democracy, 
we have an obligation to do our best to learn the facts and make a 
reasonable choice on who to vote for. There will always be people who 
refuse to bother to vote rationally but we should fight that tendency 
with all of our strength.

We can never know anything with absolute certainty. But that doesn't 
mean we can't vote rationally. There are people who don't believe AIDS 
is caused by a virus. But would you accept a blood transfusion from 
someone with AIDS? There are people who don't believe the world is 
round. But even Flat Earthers change their watches when they fly from 
New York to Los Angeles. Truth is when you know something with enough 
certainty to act upon it. This idea that we can't know the truth is a 
dangerous myth pushed by people with their own agenda. It's 
un-democratic and un-American.

On 09/13/2018 03:28 PM, Devin Prater via nfb-talk wrote:
> So, Trump is only president to some people? Lol, reminds me of how conservatives acted in the Obama erra. "Not my President!" But alas, the waves grow higher and higher, and people don't even recognize that they're just pulled along with whatever direction the wave goes. It's sad. But it is modern America. When a democrat is elected in 2020, or 2024, it'll be the republicans that shame the president. Remember Obama-food? Obama-phone? Obama-care? Now the morals reverse. Now the ones on the offensive side spew fear and misdirection at their civil enemies. Sure, the NFB should fight discremination on both sides, but that does mean Republicans, and it means Democrats too. Neither party are innocent.
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>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Robert Dyson via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Actually they do according to him but in real life the numbers have been this good in the past, 16 times during Obama's term alone.  Again, when all news is coming from someone who is a known chronic lyer this is the kinds of false information you get.  Too bad we have to swallow so many things we believe our country stands for because he has done something many other Presidents have done.  Be nice to be able to trust what our President tells us but hopefully the next one will provide this.
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>> From: nfb-talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via nfb-talk
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>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Washington Post: Trump ordered Braille removed from elevators in Trump Tower according to execs
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>> I don't believe that, but I am going to drop this.  Why aren't the economic successes reported?  He has gotten done more in his first half as President than any other in a long time, and the numbers prove it.
>>
>> Judy
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>> Judy why should I not believe this. Trump has shown over and over he is concerned about anything but himself. Everything he does is just for him and along the way some of his rich cohorts might accidentally benefit. It does not surprise me at all that he would have Braille removed from Trump towers, and if he could get away with it he would have it removed from all government buildings as well.
>> I think these so called "liberal" news media's are doing their best to protect us from this narcissist that some people call president.
>> Larry
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>> Hey, don't believe this, especially from mainstream newspapers here.  They have a left agenda and are biased, not fair and balanced, so please don't spread this anymore.  The thing to do is to find out from locals if this is,in fact the case.
>>
>> What really is sad is that you can't trust the reporting from some of the newspapers, who, in the past, had great reputations and scruples.
>>
>> Many have been bought off and lost their ability to reason.
>>
>> Judy
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>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana prokopenko via nfb-talk
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>> presidents represent whole nations and this is very sad indeed.
>>
>>> On 9/13/18, Jack Heim via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Judy, your response was blank.
>>>
>>> To me, what this article says is that while some people think
>>> accessibility is cool, some do not. I mean, a person's reaction to
>>> braille in elevators could be, "Wow, I never thought of that. How
>>> would a blind person use an elevator? How cool that we've figured out
>>> a way for them to do that."
>>>
>>> Not everybody reacts that way though.
>>>> On 09/13/2018 10:13 AM, Judy Jones via nfb-talk wrote:
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