[NFB-Talk] civil disobedience question

[mike at michaelhingson.com]

Jack,

In fact, while you state part of the facts you do not tell the entire story.
Dr. Jernigan later acknowledged that he was wrong.

The NFB has done more toward advocating for the rights of blind persons than
ANY organization. Best proof is the size of NAGDU both as a division as well
as the amount of activity on this list.

No, you are incorrect. The NFB knows ore about advocacy and defending our
rights than anyone. If you read my earlier contribution to this thread you
should have seen that even this organization is prepared to protest.

I will not debate you further except to say that you need to get ALL your
facts together before making the kind of broad sweeping comments you did
here. 


Best Regards,


Michael Hingson

-----Original Message-----
From: nFB-Talk On Behalf Of Jack Heim via nFB-Talk
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:33 AM
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Cc: Jack Heim <john at johnheim.com>; Chris Westbrook <westbchris at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] civil disobedience question

You cannot learn anything about advocacy by asking the people on this list.
All the people on this list can give you is their personal preferences --
which on this list will very much tend toward the conservative. If you want
to know whether a polite or a confrontational approach to protesting works
better, you cannot learn that from the people on this lis, they don't know
anything about advocacy.

The NFB itself has been extraordinarily conservative over the years.  In
1995, the Braille Monitor held a debate over the use of guide dogs.
https://www.nfb.org/sites/www.nfb.org/files/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm95/
brlm9510.htm

The extraordinary thing about that issue of the Braille Monitor was an essay
by Kenneth Jernigan expressing his opinion that guide dogs were an
unnecessary burden on society. So you can guess what he'd have thought of
Adapt.


On 1/13/20 9:10 AM, Chris Westbrook via nFB-Talk wrote:
> I'm curious to know what my fellow NF members think of something. I am 
> on the board of a local organization here (not NFB or blindness 
> related) and some people from that organization decided to protest 
> lack of wheelchair access by totally disrupting the inauguration 
> ceremony for new politicians, to the point where they were arrested 
> and almost charged with disorderly conduct etc. As you can imagine 
> this has sparked some controversy. I don't want to get in to more 
> detail here as I am on the board and we haven't discussed things yet, 
> but i'm just curious if anyone feels such militant protests are ever 
> justified? I am inclined to say no and definitely not in this specific 
> case for other reasons I won't get into here. This protest was 
> apparently enabled/aided by ADAPT which seems to be a very in your 
> face organization that is bad news in my opinion. It seems to me that 
> such protests can only hurt our cause. I think we must be careful to 
> always behave with dignity and be the adults in the room so to speak.
Curious what you all think.
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