[nfbcs] Trouble with IE8

Fri Sep 6 18:56:43 UTC 2013

Hi Steve.
Nope, not under Accessories.
I see several add-ons running, but they look ordinary:  Adobe, real.com, Sun 
Java ...
I tried regressing to Jaws 14.0, but that didn't help.  I think I'll give up 
and call the tech, and hope he knows what he's doing.  My efforts are not 
producing results.
Thanks for all the ideas.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8

> Tracy,
>
> You also need to look in Internet Explorer, the Tools menu, and Manage 
> Add-ons.  There is also usually a "no add-ons" version if
> Internet Explorer that you can run without changing anything just to see 
> if it makes any difference.  I believe it is usually in
> the Accessories part of the Start Menu in Windows XP.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:58:28 -0400, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>
>>Hi Blake.
>>Someone else suggested removing toolbars too, so I went and looked in the
>>add/remove programs list, and I don't see any.  I think I got rid of all
>>those badboys a while back.
>>I strongly suspect my problem is being caused by the latest Jaws update, 
>>so
>>I'm gathering my energy to sit on the phone with FS and go back to 
>>something
>>earlier, which I'm also having trouble doing.
>>Tracy
>> in the program list.
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Blake Hardin" <blakehardin5487 at gmail.com>
>>To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:05 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>
>
>>> Hi, so a few days ago I was having trouble with IE 8 as well. I went
>>> to add or remove programs, and removed all the tool bars as well as
>>> some kind of random add on that had some how got installed. This fixed
>>> my problem so I thought it might help you out out as well.
>>>
>>> On 9/5/13, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>> I have PC Pitstop, which says it optimizes settings and cleans up 
>>>> various
>>>> things.  Honestly, I don't notice much difference, but it doesn't hurt
>>>> anything, either.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, there are mixed opinions about how much such programs help 
>>>>> or
>>>>> hinder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jacob
>>>>> Struiksma
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:32 AM
>>>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>>>>>
>>>>> you have ccleaner? ccleaner is free great tool to help the computer 
>>>>> keep
>>>>> running great
>>>>> from
>>>>> Jacob Struiksma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:53 AM
>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all for the advice.
>>>>> I have:  done system maintenance, including disk cleanup and defrag, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> deleting temp files of all sorts.
>>>>> Reinstalled IE8.
>>>>> Put in the latest Jaws update--actually, IE started hanging up when I
>>>>> tried
>>>>> to install the latest update last week and it failed, but this time it
>>>>> went
>>>>> in OK.
>>>>> None of these things has fixed my problem.  A site will hang one time,
>>>>> and
>>>>> be fine a minute later, after I've gone to another window, or closed 
>>>>> the
>>>>> hanging site.  Narrator is becoming my close friend, since Jaws hangs
>>>>> when
>>>>> IE hangs, and I begin to wonder if that is significant.  Maybe Ian is
>>>>> right,
>>>>> and Jaws 14, or the latest version thereof, doesn't play well with XP
>>>>> Pro.
>>>>> I'll have to call FS, who will probably tell me that no one else is
>>>>> having
>>>>> this problem.
>>>>> Is there a system attention key for the PC, like there is for the
>>>>> mainframe?
>>>>> Something that says knock off everything you're doing, right now?
>>>>> Escape
>>>>> and alt-F4 only work eventually, when they get around to it. Or is it
>>>>> called
>>>>> the power button on the PC? <grin>
>>>>> What is a cable terminator, which Jude mentioned?
>>>>> I don't think the problem is with my internet provider--at least, I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> having the problem with my netbook, which runs NVDA.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "I. C. Bray" <i.c.bray at win.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> First off, XP PRO is a good OS, but it still has it's problems.
>>>>>> Most of the time it is an IE issue; IE likes to have it's HTML a
>>>>>> certain
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>> Since there are only normalizations, and not distinct standards with
>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>> Authoring, you are likely to continue to have problems.
>>>>>> I have JAWS 13 on XP  HOME on my LT, and use XP PRO on all of my 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> machines with NVDA. (Yes, I hate nvda, but it's free!)
>>>>>> Assside from that, if your fan is accelerating, it is a temperature /
>>>>>> processor issue.
>>>>>> JAWS 14 may not be the *best* for XP PRO.  I cannot speak t this
>>>>>> directly... Perhaps someone from FS can comment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes your DNS records can get cross-linked, or your temporary
>>>>>> internet files can kludge-up access times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best practices:
>>>>>> Clean-up your cache, temporary files, and make sure your DNS servers
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> correct with your ISP.
>>>>>> Example, with the conversion of INSIGHT to TIME-WARNER in my area,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are many reasons why this simillar behavior can occur.  DNS Records
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> pretty frequently, but sometimes things don't get cleared out on your
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should leave your History in tact, but consider clearing out 
>>>>>> Cache
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Temp Files.
>>>>>> Reboot.
>>>>>> Try the problematic sites again and see what happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, with HEAT of Summer upon us, it is often also that broad-band
>>>>>> (cable) head-ends and lines get over-heated.  This causes lower 
>>>>>> quality
>>>>>> signals accross the transmission lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could be suffering from marginal or borderline signal issues.
>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>> your customer service to report intermittant signals is a good idea
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian  C. Bray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:15 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the last 2 days, I've been having problems with IE.  It happens
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> any site; one time it hangs, and the next time it's fine, probably. 
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> seems random, but it's happened several times.
>>>>>>> I get the "program not responding, end now?" message, followed by 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> IE
>>>>>>> error report screen.  Before it abends, it hangs up for a while, and 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> hear the computer fan running like mad, but Jaws won't say anything.
>>>>>>> I've run a virus scan with MS Security Essentials, and it didn't 
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>> I'm running Jaws 14 and IE8 on Windows XP Pro.
>>>>>>> Is there any way to find out what's happening when IE hangs?
>>>>>>> If I reinstall IE8, will it cause a disaster?
>>>>>>> Does IE9 work?  I remember hearing there were problems with it.
>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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