[nfbcs] online education

[Alexandra]

I've already contacted the operator, as I said in my first email. But
they didn't seem to know anything about Jaws and screen readers in
general. I just contacted this email list to see whether anyone has
made similar experiences with Udacity or knows of an alternative
provider of accessible massive open online cooperation courses.
Am Samstag, 21. September 2013 um 14:35 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
> What I'm suggesting is that you investigate the possibility either 
> incorrectly labeled graphics or unlabeled graphics are being used to
> operate the web page you're having problems with.  Use of the keyboard
> followed by a mouse and competent mouse user and maybe you could get
> that mouse user to bring a trackball over they own and try using that to
> get to thenext question/answer pair.  Once you do that, if they tell you
> what's going on on that page, then and only then will you be competent
> to correctly request necessary technical changes to the software if 
> changes need to be made at all.  You'll have to contact the software
> house that wrote the stuff to do that but before you do, contact the
> education provider since they may need to enable administrative 
> accessibility options for your account specifically that will improve
> your accessibility.  Let the education provider know what screen reader
> and version you use when doing so too.  If you've already done all of
> this, why are you contacting nfbcs?

> On Sat, 21 Sep 2013, Alexandra wrote:

>> What are you trying to tell me? I can't use a mouse or a trackball and
>> am not willing to get some extra devices I actually don't need. Why
>> not make a website accessible in the first place?
>> 
>> By the way, there's a Coursera app for the iPhone. Anyone tried this
>> already? Results concerning accessibility could be interesting.
>> Am Dienstag, 17. September 2013 um 00:41 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
>> > Why not go onto these pages and enable graphics speech and make a
>> > catalog of the graphics set beside what the graphic does when you
>> > hit the enter key on it, when you use the jaws mouse keys to select
>> > and double click it, and if you can get a mouse user to use your 
>> > computer what happens when a physical mouse is used.  Just for 
>> > over-kill, why not invest in a trackball and try the same cataloging
>> > with the trackball?  You'll find out what devices do and don't work
>> > that way and I suspect some form of electronic pointing device is
>> > needed to make these pages work.  A trackball handshakes differently
>> > and even though jaws doesn't support it may still make one of those
>> > web pages work for you.  If you try this using a trackball along 
>> > with all the other cataloging I'd be interested to read your results
>> > and I may not necessarily be the only one interested in this list
>> > either.
>> 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> >> Hello,
>> >> 
>> >> thanks for approving my membership to this group.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm a psychologist from Germany with a strong interest in
>> >> accessibility, human-computer interaction and of course computer
>> >> science in general. I'd like to get acquainted with the basics of
>> >> computer science, preferrably by using massive open online courses.
>> >> 
>> >> I already subscribed to a course on Udacity but couldn't use it
>> >> properly with Jaws 10 or NVDA and Firefox 21. At Udacity, you are
>> >> presented with short, educational video sequences and can answer a
>> >> multiple choice question before watching the next video. After
>> >> having answered a question, I wasn't able to navigate to the next
>> >> question. I could only skip back and re-answer the question. So
>> >> there is actually no way of gradually taking the course. I wrote to
>> >> Udacity but didn't get a valuable reply. They don't seem to care
>> >> for accessibility that much, especially as I found an entry in the
>> >> forum by another Jaws user that wasn't able to use the site
>> >> properly.
>> >> 
>> >> I also tried Coursera but couldn't even enroll into a course.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> The combination of watching videos and answering questions is a
>> >> way of communicating knowledge I consider to be rather useful, as
>> >> you have a mixture of activity and passivity which makes learning
>> >> not as "boring" as just reading a book.
>> >> 
>> >> iTunesU also sounds pretty exciting, but the lectures I found
>> >> so far only allowed you to watch videos. There was no section to
>> >> test your knowledge. This is a real pity, as I'd definitely enjoy
>> >> an educational app for studying on the go. 
>> >> 
>> >> Any information on MOOCs accessible with Jaws (10) / NVDA or
>> >> educational apps for the iPhone would be appreciated.
>> >> 
>> >> Looking forward to your replies.
>> >> 
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >> 
>> >> Alexandra
>> >> 
>> >> 
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