[nfbcs] SharePoint

Fri Aug 8 18:42:32 UTC 2014

It is in .NET.  It is a microsoft web application.

Cathy Schroeder

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Louis Maher via nfbcs
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:03 PM
To: 'Steve Jacobson'; 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint

Cathy,

It would be interesting to know if your timesheet application is written in
Java.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
via nfbcs
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Schroeder, Cathy via nfbcs
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint

Cathy,

What are your time sheet screens like?  By that I mean are they web pages or
is it a stand-alone application?  If they are web pages, have you
experimented with the JFW Virtual Cursor turned off?  Some modern pages
provide information that does not get picked up by the virtual cursor or the
Window-Eyes Browse Mode very well.  In some cases, there are items on a page
that are not identified as links that nevertheless do react when you press
ENTER.  
In some cases, NVDA does a better job than either JFW or Window-Eyes with
some modern pages.  Also, if it is a SharePoint page, sometimes pressing
ENTER will open up additional choices just after the link but our screen
readers don't give us any indication that something has changed.  Many
SharePoint pages have a link that says something like "More Accessible View"
and this might change how things are displayed, but in my experience I never
understood what the link changed.  

It would be very useful to know if what you are using is within the
SharePoint environment.  I think we are going to need to help one another
with SharePoint as it seems to be really taking off.

There is a package as some of you know called Discover 508 that makes
SharePoint more accessible.  While it may be a solution in some cases, it is
very expensive and it runs on the SharePoint server, not on a local machine.
I also believe that we really do not know yet to what degree SharePoint is a
problem for those of us who are experienced computer users.  Both Louis and
I have been using it successfully, but I know that in my case I have not
used all of its capabilities yet.  There have also been cases reported where
the built-in SharePoint viewers are not accessible.  I have always been able
to download files without checking them out and viewed them locally, but I
have heard that the ability to actually download a file can be turned off.

Let's keep sharing information on this.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:13 +0000, Schroeder, Cathy via nfbcs wrote:

>A related question:

>We use a time sheet application from Share Point that I cannot read at 
>all.  Do you know if the issues I might be
having are Share Point or not.  The screens used to enter my time are
totally inaccessible.  Don't know if this is enough info to answer the
question but just thought I would ask.

>Cathy Schroeder
>ATPCO - Applications Production Support 
>Office: (703) 471-7510 Extension 1231
>Email: cschroeder at atpco.net
>www.atpco.net

>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
via nfbcs
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:37 AM
>To: Louis Maher; NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint

>Thanks Louis.  That's a weight off my mind.  I've saved your message for 
>future reference.
>Tracy

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Louis Maher via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NFB in Computer Science 
>Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint

>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> SharePoint is not that bad.  From the webpage, you can choose a view that
>> makes the document library appear as a windows explorer list view 
>> structure
>> which allows you to access and cut and paste files easily.
>>
>> You can also map your SharePoint to a disk drive to make the entire 
>> library
>> be a windows explorer view as follows:
>>
>> Map a SharePoint Website to a Disk Drive
>>
>> To establish a link to a SharePoint site through Windows Explorer, go to 
>> the
>> SharePoint website, hit alt+d for the address field, hit control + c to 
>> copy
>> the address into your clipboard, hit Windows + e to go to Windows 
>> Explorer,
>> hit shift + tab to  bring you to the left side of the screen (in tree 
>> view)
>> and land on computer (which is my  PC in Windows 8), click the right
mouse
>> button, arrow down to Map Network drive, hit enter,  paste the SharePoint
>> shortcut name into the folder field, hit shift + tab and select a  drive,
>> tab to "reconnect at startup and check it, tab to finish.
>>
>> Now when you want to read or add documents to your SharePoint site, hit
>> Windows + r for the run dialog, enter your SharePoint disk letter, and 
>> your
>> SharePoint documentation will appear in a Windows Explorer dialog.  You 
>> can
>> open, copy, and delete files just like any Windows Explorer dialog.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Louis Maher
>> Phone 713-444-7838
>> E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> via nfbcs
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:28 AM
>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfbcs] Sharepoint
>>
>> When my department starts implementing a new system later this year, we 
>> will
>> be using Sharepoint to coordinate documentation, they say.  I gather
there
>> are problems with Sharepoint accessibility?  How hard is it work around 
>> the
>> problems, using the latest version of Jaws?  Is it likely to be a little
>> hard, a pain in the neck, or a complete access disaster?
>> The older I get, the more I understand why so many blind people just
throw
>> up their hands and give up. We've had a stretch where access was pretty
>> good, but now things are getting harder again.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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