[nfbcs] SharePoint

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Sun Aug 10 04:08:27 UTC 2014


I believe that visual studio has facilities to check applications for 
accessibility.  Usually dot net apps are ok, talk to the developers if you can.

Dave

At 01:42 PM 8/8/2014, you wrote:
>It is in .NET.  It is a microsoft web application.
>
>Cathy Schroeder
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Louis 
>Maher via nfbcs
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:03 PM
>To: 'Steve Jacobson'; 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint
>
>Cathy,
>
>It would be interesting to know if your timesheet application is written in
>Java.
>
>Regards
>Louis Maher
>Phone 713-444-7838
>E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>via nfbcs
>Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:16 AM
>To: Schroeder, Cathy via nfbcs
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint
>
>Cathy,
>
>What are your time sheet screens like?  By that I mean are they web pages or
>is it a stand-alone application?  If they are web pages, have you
>experimented with the JFW Virtual Cursor turned off?  Some modern pages
>provide information that does not get picked up by the virtual cursor or the
>Window-Eyes Browse Mode very well.  In some cases, there are items on a page
>that are not identified as links that nevertheless do react when you press
>ENTER.
>In some cases, NVDA does a better job than either JFW or Window-Eyes with
>some modern pages.  Also, if it is a SharePoint page, sometimes pressing
>ENTER will open up additional choices just after the link but our screen
>readers don't give us any indication that something has changed.  Many
>SharePoint pages have a link that says something like "More Accessible View"
>and this might change how things are displayed, but in my experience I never
>understood what the link changed.
>
>It would be very useful to know if what you are using is within the
>SharePoint environment.  I think we are going to need to help one another
>with SharePoint as it seems to be really taking off.
>
>There is a package as some of you know called Discover 508 that makes
>SharePoint more accessible.  While it may be a solution in some cases, it is
>very expensive and it runs on the SharePoint server, not on a local machine.
>I also believe that we really do not know yet to what degree SharePoint is a
>problem for those of us who are experienced computer users.  Both Louis and
>I have been using it successfully, but I know that in my case I have not
>used all of its capabilities yet.  There have also been cases reported where
>the built-in SharePoint viewers are not accessible.  I have always been able
>to download files without checking them out and viewed them locally, but I
>have heard that the ability to actually download a file can be turned off.
>
>Let's keep sharing information on this.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Steve Jacobson
>
>On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:13 +0000, Schroeder, Cathy via nfbcs wrote:
>
> >A related question:
>
> >We use a time sheet application from Share Point that I cannot read at
> >all.  Do you know if the issues I might be
>having are Share Point or not.  The screens used to enter my time are
>totally inaccessible.  Don't know if this is enough info to answer the
>question but just thought I would ask.
>
>
> >Cathy Schroeder
> >ATPCO - Applications Production Support
> >Office: (703) 471-7510 Extension 1231
> >Email: cschroeder at atpco.net
> >www.atpco.net
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>via nfbcs
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:37 AM
> >To: Louis Maher; NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint
>
> >Thanks Louis.  That's a weight off my mind.  I've saved your message for
> >future reference.
> >Tracy
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Louis Maher via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NFB in Computer Science
> >Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint
>
>
> >> Hi Tracy,
> >>
> >> SharePoint is not that bad.  From the webpage, you can choose a view that
> >> makes the document library appear as a windows explorer list view
> >> structure
> >> which allows you to access and cut and paste files easily.
> >>
> >> You can also map your SharePoint to a disk drive to make the entire
> >> library
> >> be a windows explorer view as follows:
> >>
> >> Map a SharePoint Website to a Disk Drive
> >>
> >> To establish a link to a SharePoint site through Windows Explorer, go to
> >> the
> >> SharePoint website, hit alt+d for the address field, hit control + c to
> >> copy
> >> the address into your clipboard, hit Windows + e to go to Windows
> >> Explorer,
> >> hit shift + tab to  bring you to the left side of the screen (in tree
> >> view)
> >> and land on computer (which is my  PC in Windows 8), click the right
>mouse
> >> button, arrow down to Map Network drive, hit enter,  paste the SharePoint
> >> shortcut name into the folder field, hit shift + tab and select a  drive,
> >> tab to "reconnect at startup and check it, tab to finish.
> >>
> >> Now when you want to read or add documents to your SharePoint site, hit
> >> Windows + r for the run dialog, enter your SharePoint disk letter, and
> >> your
> >> SharePoint documentation will appear in a Windows Explorer dialog.  You
> >> can
> >> open, copy, and delete files just like any Windows Explorer dialog.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Louis Maher
> >> Phone 713-444-7838
> >> E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> >> via nfbcs
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:28 AM
> >> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [nfbcs] Sharepoint
> >>
> >> When my department starts implementing a new system later this year, we
> >> will
> >> be using Sharepoint to coordinate documentation, they say.  I gather
>there
> >> are problems with Sharepoint accessibility?  How hard is it work around
> >> the
> >> problems, using the latest version of Jaws?  Is it likely to be a little
> >> hard, a pain in the neck, or a complete access disaster?
> >> The older I get, the more I understand why so many blind people just
>throw
> >> up their hands and give up. We've had a stretch where access was pretty
> >> good, but now things are getting harder again.

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org





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