[nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives

Tue May 13 04:11:08 UTC 2014

Just because he did not mention it does not mean they don't or that he does
not plan for them to; people don't always include every detail. He did not
say that they would be taking the computers to the company either. The
company does come to their customers. http://www.nerdz.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives

hi,

he didn't mention the company performing service at his home and said we
will have them install...
That hardware is not installed in a desktop computer and that won't be
possible if he takes the tower to the repair company.
Bryan Schulz

Comptia A+

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives

> Why do you think that Peter is unaware of what a NAS drive is? He said in
> house, not off network.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:06 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>
> Pete,
>
> It sounds like you are unaware of what a nas drive is.
> A nas drive is network attached storage connected to your router and
> configured by navigating a web site based interface instead of being
> installed in your tower system.
>
> Bryan Schulz
> Comptia A+
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>
>
> Hello John and everyone,
>
>    We got unlucky and got lackey again. Computer Nerdz will love us.
> They're a local computer instruction and repair company in San Antonio. We
> just received word that my brother-in-law will be sending us funds to help
> us with various issues including fixing Mary's computer for the second 
> time.
> We also want to network our computers together so we only need to run them
> from a single cable connection. We'll also have them install a NAS drive 
> so
> we can store all of our datafiles in one location and make them available 
> to
> all of our machines. Storing them in house will allow us to reduce the use
> of an off-site backup service allowing us to tighten our belt and spend
> money on more important things. Thanks again for the help.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> and
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John HG. eim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>
>
> Well, it's possible  that you just got unlucky. Most viruses are written 
> by
> folks called "script kitties". Even that name gives them more credit than
> they deserve because most of them couldn't script a for loop to count to
> ten. They take code that is already out there and use tools to tweak it. 
> Why
> would someone with the brains to do more than that mess with your 
> computer?
> Maybe they want to get on your computer but they don't want you to know 
> it.
> But more likely, they are spending their time trying to get into the 
> credit
> card database of their favorite retailer. But maybe you just got unlucky.
>
> On May 12, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello John and everyone,
>>
>>   There are only two people that use that computer Mary and myself. We've
>> been using computers for many years and never had problems like this 
>> until
>
>> January of this year. All of our machines have anty virus software on 
>> them
>
>> that is active at all times. We have Avask on the Windows XP machines and
>> Microsoft Security Essentials on the Windows 7 machine the one with the
>> virus. Perhaps Avask does a better job of catching trogens and we should
>> have the repair folks install Avask on that machine as well. Thanks.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 10:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>>
>>
>>> You know that this kind of thing is usually, not always, caused by poor
>>> internet hygene, right? How sure are you that everyone who uses that
>>> machine knows how to avoid viruses? No anti-birus package is going to
>>> keep you safe from viruses if the users are essentially choosing to
>>> install them.
>>>
>>> Honestly, I don't even recall the last time I saw a Windows machine get 
>>> a
>
>>> virus where I wasn't able to pin it down to a deliberate action by the
>>> end-user to install the virus. Of course, they didn't think they were
>>> installing a virus. We had several people get a virus a while ago 
>>> because
>
>>> it came up saying it had detected a virus on their computer, and they
>>> should click this button to remove it. Of course, if they clicked the
>>> button it actually installed the virus.
>>>
>>> Someone else on this list suggested you review your habits (or more
>>> likely those of the other users of the computer). My opinion is that 
>>> that
>
>>> is the best suggestion you've gotten. Are they installing plugins from
>>> unreliable sources? Running programs off a borrowed thumb drive? There 
>>> is
>
>>> no anti-virus program in the world that can protect you from that kind 
>>> of
>
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> I once put a link on a web page that said, "Click here to install a 
>>> virus
>
>>> on your computer." Just to make sure people were appropriately scared, I
>>> put another link that said, "Click here and I'll show you the files on
>>> your C: drive." That was just a file link to their C: drive. But it
>>> should have scared anyone who didn't know how this stuff really works.
>>> Even so, plenty of people clicked the virus link. Most virusdevelopers
>>> aren't that obvious. It's possible you've just been unlucky and have 
>>> come
>
>>> across some particularly sophisticated virus developers. But most 
>>> likely,
>
>>> somebody who uses that computer isn't following good internet hygene
>>> habits.
>>>
>>> On 05/12/14 07:34, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>>>>
>>>>    We just reloaded windows on that machine 4 months ago. We will most
>>>> likely need to reload it again but are not willing to put up with that
>>>> machine being attacked and needing a complete system reload every time
>>>> we turn around. This wasn't a problem until January of this year. We'll
>>>> need both a system reload and whatever software or patch Microsoft will
>>>> have available to prevent "Computer" from being knocked out by trogens
>>>> in the future. We have far more important things to spend our money on
>>>> besides having to hire someone to reload computers attacked by viruses
>>>> and having to restore the data each time this happens. All the best.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> i have used a version of avg for years and never had an attack or
>>>>> virus.
>>>>> it would be cheaper to hire a neighbor to read the screens and install
>>>>> windows yourself.
>>>>> you should be able to recognize a tech that wants to gouge you.
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue"
>>>>> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:36 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Accessible Windows Explorer Alternatives
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Before I head out of town for the weekend I want to find out which
>>>>>> file management  alternatives to Windows Explorer/My
>>>>>> Computer/Computer that are accessible with screen reading systems.
>>>>>> Back in January Mary's computer which runs Windows 7 was infected by
>>>>>> a trogen that took out "Computer." The infection was so bad that the
>>>>>> entire machine needed to be reloaded. I find it hard to believe that
>>>>>> Microsoft would not be a ware of this trogen vulnerability and would
>>>>>> have released a patch to correct the problem. The company that
>>>>>> reloaded the computer installed Microsoft Security Essentials on it
>>>>>> I'm not sure if this package will scan and remove trogens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   It has been four months since the last infection and it's
>>>>>> happening again. It looks like we're in for another system reload to
>>>>>> get rid of this one and will most likely be set back another $500.00.
>>>>>> We can't keep going through this every so often. There are two
>>>>>> questions we have for you all. 1. Which antivirus package is the best
>>>>>> at protecting one's machine from trogen infections particularly those
>>>>>> that attack the OS. 2. In the event this should happen again we want
>>>>>> to know if there are file management alternatives to My
>>>>>> Computer/Windows Explorer that will run under Windows 7 we could
>>>>>> install as a backup program should another infection occur?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Your suggestions for a permanent fix will be very much
>>>>>> appreciated. I'll also be in touch with Microsoft next week so they
>>>>>> can remote on to that machine to see for themselves what's going on
>>>>>> in the hopes they can fix it without having to reload the entire
>>>>>> thing again. As if we have tons of bucks to spend on computer repairs
>>>>>> every time we turn around. Sorry for this tone but this is really
>>>>>> annoying when you have other issues to address such as a guide dog
>>>>>> being over-due for routine veterinary care and help isn't
>>>>>> fourth-coming not even from the guide dog school. Otherwise Mary's
>>>>>> computer is usable. We've discovered some work-arounds to deal with
>>>>>> file management issues until this situation can be remedied hopefully
>>>>>> permanently. Interestingly enough we have not had this trouble with
>>>>>> our Windows XP machines. Go figure Microsoft!All the best. I'm off to
>>>>>> Camp Tejas for the weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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