[nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request

Thu May 22 00:44:53 UTC 2014

Do you use a Windows ssh client?  I have been using teraterm myself. 

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 

> On May 21, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> If you decide to take the ssh route, I can also answer questions as I do it
> every day at work. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Barbour via
> nfbcs
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:53 AM
> To: Ian C. Bray via nfbcs
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request
> 
> I'm not John, but I do use Linux/UNIX daily and have a few points to make.
> 
> First, Orca is not as stable as JAWS, Window Eyes, or voiceover.  It keeps
> getting worked on, and I would call it usable, but you'll have to get used
> to more crashes, hangs, inconsistant behavior, etc.
> 
> However, much of what gets done in Linux can be done from inside a terminal
> -- think of a fancier cmd.exe window.
> 
> If you figure out that what you need linux for can be done from the command
> line, this opens up two other options for you.
> 
> First, you can find out if your linux box allows incoming ssh connections.
> ssh is a method for accessing other, most UNIX like, hosts.
> 
> If your linux box allows incoming ssh connections, or if you can enable
> them, then you can install an ssh client on your windows machine and use
> jaws plus your ssh client to access your linux box.
> You can have as many ssh sessions opened as you like, meaning you can do
> many tasks at once.
> 
> Second, you can configure your linux box to not run X-windows, and instead
> just run a terminal based screen reader.  There are two that I know of.
> Terminal based screen readers operate directly within the terminal, behaving
> like DOS screen readers from 30 years ago.  Your keystrokes get echoed, your
> output gets read to you, you can use review cursors to explore the screen,
> you can use programs that divide your physical screen into several logical
> ones, so you can do multiple things at once, etc.
> 
> If any of this sounds interesting to you, feel free to ask about them here
> and one of us can tell you more.
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:10:17AM -0400, Ian  C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>> Is there a huge learning curve?
>> I'm a JAWS user, but know nothing of ORCA and your suggeted reader.
>> Are ORCA & Yours similar to operate??
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim via nfbcs"
>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request
>> 
>> 
>>> In my opinion, the best talking distro out there is sonar linux. I 
>>> don't know the URL, you can google that though. I was so impressed 
>>> with sonar I installed it on my machine at home. And I do linux 
>>> support for a living. I have not tried the latest version though. 
>>> They recently switched from basing their distro on linux to basing it 
>>> on arch (I think).
>>> 
>>> If you need something based on ubuntu, you can try vinux.
>>> 
>>> There is currently a huge debate going on on the orca list about 
>>> standardizing the key bindings to make it easier for users to switch 
>>> from Windows to linux. It has gotten heated enough that I took myself 
>>> off the list for a while. But I can virtually guarantee that there 
>>> will be no changes. I was about the only one who even seemed to think 
>>> it was worth considering. I'll admit that it would be wrong to change 
>>> the orca keys to be like those of jaws. What I would hope for, 
>>> though, it to get people to agree that if some standardization could 
>>> be done, it would be a good thing. People won't even go for that. It's
> ridiculous, IMO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Ian C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is there anyone out there who can help me get an UBUNTU  box started 
>>>> so that it has some varriant of speech that functions simillarly to 
>>>> JAWS?
>>>> 
>>>> I-- have no idea where to start with this.
>>>> 
>>>> Tami Jarvis spoke to me about ORCA-- and I have only been diving 
>>>> into my own SEMI-Professional Accessibility Needs recently.
>>>> 
>>>> I have an ancient LAPTOP with 12.8 LTS on it, and I would like to 
>>>> get back to my Unix / Linux Tinkering.
>>>> 
>>>> Mentorship & off-line phone conversations & EMail Groups / Listservs 
>>>> welcome.
>>>> I do not do well in forums-- but I'm not saying I won't try.
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> 
>>>> Ian  C. Bray
>>>> Louisville, KY
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