[nfbcs] Sonar or Vinux

John Heim via nfbcs nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Thu May 22 15:39:24 UTC 2014


These are all really good points. In fact, I am a case in point. I am 
going to have to abandon sonar once it switches to arch. And I have 
debian wheezy on my desktop for the very reason yu mention. Howerver, I 
would say that anything that helps blind people get started in linux is 
a good thing.  I think it's a good thing that there is at least one 
distro out there that a blind person can get started with without too 
much work.


On 05/22/14 10:15, Jim Barbour via nfbcs wrote:
> I will point out that this is why I'm not a fan of either distro.  The
> blindness world isn't big enough to command a lot of attention.  The
> attention we get should be focused on making the distros themselves
> easier for us to use.  Efforts that try to fork distros, like Ubuntu
> and arch, into blindness focused ones, like vinux and sonar, do not
> really help the situation.
>
> Further, a blind person isn't going to be able to require that all
> unix machines they manage run a blindness friendly distro; so this
> definately doesn't help blind folks get LInux related employment.
>
> JIm
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:02:19AM -0400, Littlefield, Tyler via nfbcs wrote:
>> That's pretty much how it happened. Bill was basically project lead and took
>> over everything with some guy from Ubuntu who was back and forth, think his
>> name was tony. Or maybe that was the main guy, it's been a while. Eventually
>> he just gave it up. My biggest issue is a lot of people call it a "secure
>> OS," including commtechusa if you care to look at that site. I was just
>> curious what they offered. Last I looked, Vinux recommended not updating and
>> they were on an older version of Ubuntu--both not really paths to security.
>> The updates was because things would break, but that still means you're not
>> all that secure if you ever leave your house and your personal router.
>> On 5/22/2014 9:44 AM, John Heim via nfbcs wrote:
>>> My experience as of about 1 year ago was that sonar was a way more
>>> polished product than vinux. I've seen a lot of questions about vinux like
>>> when is the new version coming out, why is it still based on some old
>>> version of ubuntu. Like so many open source projects, there was probably
>>> one person, maybe two, driving the project and when they ran out of steam,
>>> the project slowed to a crawl.
>>>
>>> I was so impressed with sonar that I put it on my machine at home. And I
>>> put it on what I call my drop dead emergency machine here at work. Sonar
>>> is that solid.
>>>
>>> The one problem I have with sonar is that they are switching from basing
>>> their distro on ubuntu to basing it on arch linux. I will probably drop
>>> sonar once that conversion is complete. I have to stay with a debian fork
>>> because my job is to support debian.  What I'd really like is to have
>>> debian be so accessible that we wouldn't need either sonar or vinux. Well,
>>> one can dream.
>>>
>>> On 05/21/14 20:05, David Andrews via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> Hi Jim et al:
>>>>
>>>> I have a Windows XP laptop that I am thinking of installing a Linux
>>>> system on, to play and learn a little.  What are
>>>> advantages/disadvantages to Sonar versus Vinux?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
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>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
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