[nfbcs] certificates vs. assosiates vs. bachelors

[Jude DaShiell]

America is the only country in the industrialized world that does its 
college education this way and is compeled to do so on account of the 
low quality of primary and secondary education.  Try attending Tokyo 
University or Oxford with only a bachelors degree from an American 
college and those that have find themselves in academic trouble quickly 
and have to do remedial studies to catch up.  M.I.T. is an exception and 
I expect florida State University as well, their graduates would be able 
to hold their own but from what I've learned to date that's the limit.

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Nicole Torcolini wrote:

> Excuse me, but that is not true. If that is true at certain colleges, then don't go to those colleges.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> A bachelor's degree in the United States includes 3 years of high school 
> retread and at most 1 year of education intended to prepare anyone for the 
> workplace.  On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs wrote:
> 
> > Obviously the Assosiates and the Bachelors take more time then the
> > certificate and they are more traditional but also, a lot of the time,
> > specially for 4-year degrees are spent fulfilling General Education
> > requirements which have no impact on your Computer Science curriculum or
> > your performance in computer-related and/or job related functions so I was
> > wondering if the time was really counted?
> > 
> > Yes, however, these are opportunities that you most likely are not going to
> > get again. Some of the "not computer" stuff you do actually need, such as
> > writing. Just because you will be doing computer work does not mean that you
> > will not be writing. No, not exactly the same type of writing that you will
> > do in college, but you will be able to apply what you learned. Also, some of
> > the things you learn, such as being required to research both sides on a
> > persuasive essay, will teach you to view life differently. Finally, as for
> > the other educational requirements, especially the ones where you can
> > choose, think of it as an opportunity. Once you start work, I doubt that you
> > will have the time or resources to learn the things that you could have
> > learned in college. Just my $0.02.
> > 
> > Nicole
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez via
> > nfbcs
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:15 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: [nfbcs] certificates vs. assosiates vs. bachelors
> > 
> > Hi all:
> > So I was wondering something based on a discussion I had this morning with a
> > few people.
> > What's the difference between a certificate, bachelor and associates program
> > in terms of industry reception?
> > Obviously I know the most important thing for work of any kind is a proven
> > track record, and corresponding certs but is this enough or is traditional
> > college required?
> > In other words, would a certificate program in specific areas be sufficient
> > and be recognized the same way an associates and/or bachelor's degree would
> > be?
> > And, is there any specific advantage to any of these certifications over the
> > others?
> > Obviously the Assosiates and the Bachelors take more time then the
> > certificate and they are more traditional but also, a lot of the time,
> > specially for 4-year degrees are spent fulfilling General Education
> > requirements which have no impact on your Computer Science curriculum or
> > your performance in computer-related and/or job related functions so I was
> > wondering if the time was really counted?
> > I'm just interested in seeing which of these options was most highly seen by
> > the industry--if the industry still prefers a bachelors/associates (either
> > or or one specifically) to a cert program or if they are all judged equally
> > as long as you have sufficient skills, etc. to do what you need to do.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jorge A. Paez
> > 
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jorgeapaez
> > 
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