[nfbcs] NFBTRANS

Sat May 14 16:28:57 UTC 2016

Jude,

While you are certainly correct about keeping code and data separate, the
types of rules that one can put in a table are logical and require some
coding.  If turboBraille anticipated all of the rules that UEB needs, then
tables can be changed.  I do not know how TurboBraille works in that regard.
NFBTRANS, as I have said before, anticipated quite a few rule types, and one
could go quite a ways toward producing UEB braille.  However, there are some
cases, particularly where passages of text can be shown with certain
attributes, where I understand NFBTRANS falls short.  There may be some
other areas as well.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:34 PM
To: Greg Kearney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS

If I have this right, the last version of turbobraille I found was
tbrl504.zip and that was on Chuck Hallenbech's website.  That was a while
ago though.  So long as turbobraille failed to store any of its data in
executeable code itself and got everything from data files it used U.E.B.
may be more easily possible with turbobraille than nfbtrans.
  We were told about not intermingling data and code at Arkansas Enterprises
For The Blind during computer programmer training too and that was back in
1982-1983 for me.

On Fri, 13 May 2016, Greg Kearney via nfbcs wrote:

> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:27:27
> From: Greg Kearney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Greg Kearney <gkearney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS
> 
> Turbo Braille, at one time I made a MacOS X version of that command line
program. No UEB implementation was ever done so like NFB Trans it may be of
limited use. You can get a version it here:
>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/files/blind/TBRL35.ZIP
>
> Runs in DOS or win DOS emulators.
>
> Greg
>
>
>> On May 13, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Jude DaShiell via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>>
>> Chuck Hallenbech wrote tbrl which is supposed to also be a braille
translator.  I don't know what operating systems will run it though.
>>
>> On Fri, 13 May 2016, David Andrews via nfbcs wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:04:39
>>> From: David Andrews via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS
>>> To the best of my knowledge, it is not on NFBNET.  We haven't done a
very good job of keeping files up to date, to be honest.
>>>
>>> With so much on t5he internet, it didn't seem worth the effort.
However, I have considered having a NFBTrans area, just never did it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 09:44 AM 5/11/2016, you wrote:
>>>> Kathy,
>>>> I did manage to get NFBTRANS recompiled so that it will work on a 
>>>> 64-bit system.  We also were able to get the WINTRANS part updated 
>>>> as well to run it from inside Windows without agoing to the command 
>>>> prompt.  However, there are no plans to get NFBTRANS to fully 
>>>> support UEB.  Some changes to tables would get us part way there, 
>>>> but there are passage indicators that cannot work right without program
changes.
>>>> I don't know if the newest version is on NFBNET or not, but I could 
>>>> send it to you if you want.  If it would be helpful, I can just 
>>>> send you the executable that has been recompiled or the whole thing.
Let me know.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Stev Jacobsone
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathy 
>>>> Schroeder via nfbcs
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:02 AM
>>>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Cathy Schroeder <cathy at sks.com>
>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS
>>>> I know I am dating myself but here goes.
>>>> Many of you will remember back to the production of NFBTRANS, a 
>>>> free Braille Translator that the NFB produced. I am trying to use 
>>>> it and am finding that I cannot run it on Windows 764. Does anyone 
>>>> know of an easy solution to this? Do we have a version that will run on
this platform?
>>>> For as little Braille printing as I do, I can't see paying for Duxbury.
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