[nfbcs] Some thoughtful writing on how to get accessibility and how to avoid not having it stop you from doing what you want to do

[Andy B.]

For what it's worth, I have accessibility/lack there of in a university
setting as a student. Currently, I am in my MBA in small business IT degree.
I do have a B.S. in IS/application development if this will help.


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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Some thoughtful writing on how to get accessibility and
how to avoid not having it stop you from doing what you want to do

For what it's worth:

As a phenomenological sociologist, a braille transcriber and a faculty
member in a College of Engineering, I would be very happy to collaborate
with individuals who have first hand experiences with respect to
accessibility/inaccessibility, to produce articles for Braille Monitor, and
perhaps even for submission to the Journal of Blindness Innovation and
Research, or other journals.

To clarify elements of my opening sentences, being a phenomenological
sociologist means that I pay attention to *the individual's experience as an
essential component of practice* in social settings, including learning and
working environments.

As a faculty member, I teach courses related to needs assessment, and
professional ethics and morality. Needs Assessments are systematic processes
undertaken in order to determine what has to be done to fix a certain
problem, or improve things to some degree. The idea of professional ethics
is probably pretty well understood in general.  I think they dovetail nicely
on the issues under discussion in this thread.

If you're interested in collaboration to this end, please don't hesitate to
contact me here or off-list at <dwiniecki at boisestate.edu>.  The range of
things that count for `collaboration` is huge, and includes reading and
writing with me, and even just telling me stories that describe your
experiences in minute, click-by-click detail with others or independently.

_don

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Don Winiecki, Ed.D., Ph.D.
*Professor of Ethics & Morality in Professional Practice* Boise State
University, College of Engineering Dept of Organizational Performance &
Workplace Learning (OPWL)
1910 University Drive, Mail Stop 2070
Boise, Idaho 83725-2070 USA
E-mail: dwiniecki at boisestate.edu
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Gary Wunder via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> I write this to the computer science list, but feel free to pass it 
> along to others if you think they may contribute. In a number of 
> threads I read on this list and others, many of us are frustrated by 
> the lack of accessibility we find in required software. We rejoice 
> when president Riccobono tells us about a challenge undertaken and a 
> company we have one over to accessibility. What sometimes goes unsaid 
> and may be misunderstood is that we can't sue everybody all at the 
> same time. So the question many of us tackle is how we get what we 
> need while at the same time pressing for what we really want. The 
> solution seems obvious: using a human reader while trying to engage 
> the company in dialogue. But my experience of late is that this is not 
> considered a legitimate way to react by accessibility evangelists who 
> seem to characterize the use of a human reader as a selling out or 
> breaking a sacred packed with others who want accessibility. Now I 
> enjoy the philosophical debate that goes on here, but I hate it when 
> people miss opportunities that could bring them good careers.
>
> All of this is by way of introduction, I am actually pandering. I am 
> looking for thoughtful articles on the subject to appear in the pages 
> of the Braille Monitor. How do we feel about a piece of software that 
> is very usable once it is installed but cannot be installed by us 
> directly because there is a button that the screenreader cannot 
> identify labeled install. Would it be enough to dissuade you from 
> using that particular piece of software, or would you use the 
> software, tell the developer about his inaccessible installation 
> process, and take the time to complement him on those things that work 
> well? To what extent are we willing to use visual interpreting 
> services in order to have access? Do we view these services as 
> unacceptable, a temporary bridge until we get accessibility, or an 
> absolute necessity as we are overwhelmed by kiosks, ziosks, and 
> unattended food markets? If a service or a device is inaccessible and 
> we use a visual interpreter, does it matter whether that visual 
> interpreter serves us through artificial intelligence or biological 
> intelligence?
>
> I know it is always easier to ask provocative questions than to come 
> up with answers, but I would love to see the Braille Monitor explore 
> these issues.
> We have done a bit on visual interpreting services, but I don't think 
> that we have begun to say all that needs to be said about how to 
> function in a world where accessibility is always a moving target. My 
> preference is to see articles; I would settle for a healthy discussion 
> from which one of us might create one or more articles.
>
> Thank you for reading the Braille Monitor, and thanks for considering 
> being an active part of what goes into it. Let's make this topic 
> something to write home about.
>
>
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