[nfbcs] Screen Reader & Coding

[Newton Nguyen]

Hi Ida,

I was in the same boat as you a couple of years ago as an undergraduate trying to learn how to code via screenreader. I am currently doing this work in graduate school; it definitely is possible. Let's talk about this further so I can give you more relevant information. Would you mind sending me an email at newton at caltech.edu <mailto:newton at caltech.edu> so we can avoid spamming the list serve?

Cheers,

Newton Nguyen 

> On Aug 17, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ida B via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I know what I call “elevator Braille” or grade 1 Braille. I don’t really
> know punctuations. Given my base knowledge would a Braille display be too
> high of a learning curve?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:20 PM Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, listers,
>> 
>> While using a Braille display can be a good tool for coding, we don't
>> actually know whether Ida knows Braille. One of NFB's biggest criticisms of
>> the state agencies is that they discourage learning Braille if you have
>> even the slightest level of usable vision, even when they know that vision
>> will disappear. Obviously, only Ida can tel us if she knows Braille, and I
>> certainly hope she does, but if not, we are asking her to significantly
>> steepen her learning curve to use a Braille display. Let's see what she
>> says.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Ryan Stevens
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of rjaquiss via
>> nfbcs
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:07 PM
>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>> Cc: rjaquiss
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Screen Reader & Coding
>> 
>> Hello Ida:
>> 
>>     I use a braille display when coding or writing html. Assuming you are
>> using a PC, you use JAWS or NVDA to control the braille display. For
>> languages such as Python, seeing the white space is essential. There are
>> java and c beautifiers that will accept files and format them with proper
>> indenting. Since capital letters are used within variables, braille is
>> essential. Most braille displays use eight dot cells.  This allows
>> capitalized latters to occupy one cell instead of two. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ida B via nfbcs
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:54 PM
>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Ida B
>> Subject: [nfbcs] Screen Reader & Coding
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am new to this group, and would love some advice. I am a 21 year old
>> university senior studying computer science. I am extremely excited to
>> begin my career in the field. Up until now, I’ve mostly programmed with
>> screen magnification software. However, as my vision deteriorates, I am
>> starting to transition to screen reader software like JAWS.
>> 
>> How long do you think it takes for someone to become an advanced JAWS
>> user? I feel frustrated because I feel like it takes me a long time to
>> navigate the computer using just the keyboard and my ears. Does this
>> frustration ever go away? Will I ever become as fast at using the computer
>> as my sighted peers?
>> 
>> For those of you who code, how do you do it? Especially in languages like
>> Python that are super finicky about things like white space or punctuation.
>> How do you get up to speed on a large code base with many different layers
>> of code from front-end, to the database layer? What IDE or environment do
>> you use?
>> 
>> I’d appreciate any advice, wisdom, and insight.
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> Ida B
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