[nfbcs] Screen Reader & Coding

[Ida B]

Hello,

I know what I call “elevator Braille” or grade 1 Braille. I don’t really
know punctuations. Given my base knowledge would a Braille display be too
high of a learning curve?

Thank you

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:20 PM Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi, listers,
>
> While using a Braille display can be a good tool for coding, we don't
> actually know whether Ida knows Braille. One of NFB's biggest criticisms of
> the state agencies is that they discourage learning Braille if you have
> even the slightest level of usable vision, even when they know that vision
> will disappear. Obviously, only Ida can tel us if she knows Braille, and I
> certainly hope she does, but if not, we are asking her to significantly
> steepen her learning curve to use a Braille display. Let's see what she
> says.
>
> Take care,
> Ryan Stevens
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:07 PM
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> Hello Ida:
>
>      I use a braille display when coding or writing html. Assuming you are
> using a PC, you use JAWS or NVDA to control the braille display. For
> languages such as Python, seeing the white space is essential. There are
> java and c beautifiers that will accept files and format them with proper
> indenting. Since capital letters are used within variables, braille is
> essential. Most braille displays use eight dot cells.  This allows
> capitalized latters to occupy one cell instead of two. Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ida B via nfbcs
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:54 PM
> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Ida B
> Subject: [nfbcs] Screen Reader & Coding
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am new to this group, and would love some advice. I am a 21 year old
> university senior studying computer science. I am extremely excited to
> begin my career in the field. Up until now, I’ve mostly programmed with
> screen magnification software. However, as my vision deteriorates, I am
> starting to transition to screen reader software like JAWS.
>
> How long do you think it takes for someone to become an advanced JAWS
> user? I feel frustrated because I feel like it takes me a long time to
> navigate the computer using just the keyboard and my ears. Does this
> frustration ever go away? Will I ever become as fast at using the computer
> as my sighted peers?
>
> For those of you who code, how do you do it? Especially in languages like
> Python that are super finicky about things like white space or punctuation.
> How do you get up to speed on a large code base with many different layers
> of code from front-end, to the database layer? What IDE or environment do
> you use?
>
> I’d appreciate any advice, wisdom, and insight.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Ida B
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