[nfbcs] Suing a seemingly accessible web site

[Kevin]

By all means, throw the book at those who will not follow the law.  I 
just don't like this knee jerk reaction we often see.


On 2/16/2019 11:52 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I agree with you if you're talking about this particular web site, but 
> IMHO, there are plenty of cases where there is no work around and we 
> should resort to protests and legal action. Obviously, this shouldn't 
> be the first course of action, but if the company is unwilling to 
> listen to legitimate issues around accessibility then the law that's 
> on the books should be enforced.
>
>
> On 2/16/19 10:29 AM, Kevin via nfbcs wrote:
>> Yes indeed, but I think it is high time we do away with this march on 
>> Washington, off with there heads, yell in the streets garbage. 
>> Everything has a work around and I doubt the issues are so bad as to 
>> render the site unusable.
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2019 11:25 AM, Buddy Brannan via nfbcs wrote:
>>> While it’s possible, even probable, that this is one of those scum 
>>> sucking bottom feeding ambulance chasing types that’s out for a 
>>> quick buck on the backs of real accessibility issues, you know the 
>>> kind…drive by business and sue for ADA violations without actually 
>>> patronizing the company in question…it’s also possible that it 
>>> isn’t. There are, after all, other accessibility concerns besides 
>>> blindness ones. How does the site stack up to WCAG standards? Is 
>>> there enough contrast? Does screen enlargement properly scale? Is 
>>> the site fully navigable by keyboard? If it has any carousels, can 
>>> they be paused or stopped? What about access to modal dialogs? Are 
>>> videos properly captioned? There really are a s**t ton of 
>>> accessibility concerns not at all related to screen reader usage. 
>>> So, yes. The people suing this company may well be the wrong sort of 
>>> people, with no real beef. But before making that accusation, it’s 
>>> probably a good idea to see what the actual complaint is. No, I 
>>> don’t advocate suing right off the bat either.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Kevin via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you.  It makes me so sick I could throw up! This is 
>>>> the world we live in I'm sad to say.  No doubt any judge would 
>>>> laugh this out of court.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/2019 10:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain via nfbcs wrote:
>>>>> I was contacted by a lawyer today because one of his clients is 
>>>>> being sued under the ADA because their web site is not accessible. 
>>>>> I went to the web site and I couldn't find a single issue with the 
>>>>> site. In fact, it may be the most accessible and easiest to use 
>>>>> shopping site I've ever visited. The web site is 
>>>>> https://www.evolutionsalt.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone goes to the web site and finds any issues with it, 
>>>>> please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm obviously very much in favor of making web sites accessible, 
>>>>> and I'm not opposed to using the ADA and a law suit as a last 
>>>>> resort to force a company in complying with the law. I'm also very 
>>>>> much against frivolous lawsuits against sites that are accessible 
>>>>> just to get some kind of a settlement for a nuisance lawsuit. I 
>>>>> think this makes blind people look bad and petty, and it makes it 
>>>>> harder for us to address issues with sites that are legitimately 
>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, this lawyer just reached out to me since he knew I was blind 
>>>>> and used the web.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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