[Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

Fri Apr 23 13:48:12 UTC 2010

Please email me off list holly. email is joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
How has it changed? I thought they were tearing down the doorms. what are 
they replacing the dorms with. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's 
policy concerning out of state services


> RJ,
> The Orientation and Adjustment Center has changed a lot since we were
> students.
> Good luck,
> Holly
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Rick Brown <rlbrown1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Kurt, I don't think RJ was in the military, so he wouldn't qualify for
>> services from the VA.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kirk
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:31 PM
>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>>  Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
>> policy concerning out of state services
>>
>> RJ, I am curious as to whether or not you ever had rehab from Birmingham
>> V.A.? I do know that I went their 10 years ago and found it quite a
>> learning
>>
>> experience. I also know that your equipment that best fits your needs are
>> given to you without charge. I found them quite thorough and when I
>> returned
>>
>> from it I was quite capable. If you still decide to use the DBS and the
>> civilian side of your options, I have been told that the NFB's Louisiana
>> center is quite thorough as well. I do not know the cost of their 
>> program,
>> as I have never been their, but I can assure you, in one man's opinion, I
>> know both are capable and affective options for you! Your friend in the
>> cause, Kirk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk Harmon
>> 1031 Lenmore CT.
>> Orlando, FL. 32812
>> Office: 407-380-3371
>> Cell: 407-473-2176
>>
>> Founder
>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress
>> President-CEO
>> FDCP Association
>> 911 cell Phone Bank
>> Manager
>>
>> Mayor's Veterans Advisory Counsel
>>
>> State of Florida Veterans Counsel
>> Member
>> NFB
>> ACB
>> TRIAD
>> DAV
>> BVA
>> Disabled
>> Advocate
>>
>> for Florida
>>
>> " F.D.C.P. Turning HOPE into REALITY"
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:38 PM
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's 
>> policy
>> concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>> Hey, I need your feedback on what I should do. The District administrator
>> wants to refer me to the lighthouse of the palmbeachs, but I do not want 
>> to
>> go there. I want to go to LCB. Any tips, as to what I should say? RJ 
>> Please
>> just keep your comments on the list. I just am asking for some guidance
>> here. RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>> To: RJ Sandefur
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>> concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>> Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your
>> mother.
>>
>> If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can
>> reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the Palm
>> Beaches at this time for training.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to 
>> help
>> you in making your decision about training.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because you
>> attached it to your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>
>> In order to assist you with training services, please call our office and
>> ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or 
>> 866-225-0794.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>
>> District Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>> From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>> To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>> Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy 
>> concerning
>> out of state services
>>
>>
>> Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for 
>> you
>> concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy concerning out
>> of
>>
>> state services. In 1999, I attended the rehabilitation center, which is 
>> now
>> the orientation and adjustment center, and did not find the experience to
>> be
>>
>> a pleasant one. In 2004, I closed my case with DBS, due to a disagreement
>> with my councilor at the time. However, due to having recently lost my
>> mother, and other factors, I believe I am in need of some adjustment to
>> blindness training, and this training should be conducted at the 
>> Louisiana
>> center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at the DBS web sight and came
>> across the policy concerning out of state services:
>> Out of State Services
>> DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>
>> SUBJECT
>> Out of State Services
>>
>> EFFECTIVE DATE
>> July 9, 2003
>>
>> REVISION DATE
>> February 14, 2008
>>
>> EXPIRATION DATE
>> This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>
>> PURPOSE
>>
>> To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>
>> AUTHORITY
>> 34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>
>> POLICY
>> The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference for
>> in-State services, provided that the preference does not effectively deny
>> an
>>
>> individual a necessary service. If the individual chooses an out-of-State
>> service at a higher cost than an in-State service, and either service 
>> would
>> meet the individual's rehabilitation needs, the designated State unit is
>> not
>>
>> responsible for those costs in excess of the cost of the in-State 
>> service.
>> However, if the out-of-state services provides a unique service to meet 
>> the
>> individual's rehabilitation plan, the Bureau Chief should be contacted to
>> approve or disapproval such a service.
>>
>> Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 But
>> compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 in RSA
>> PD-01-03:
>>
>>
>>      POLICY STATEMENT:  The State VR program must provide applicants
>> and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to
>> exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making
>> decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers,
>> settings for employment and service provision, and methods for
>> procuring services.  To enable an individual to make such decisions,
>> the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance
>> needed by the individual.  The VR agency has the responsibility to
>> implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop
>> resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR
>> services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process;
>> these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with
>> Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this 
>> mean,
>> that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend LCB, due 
>> to
>> causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with DBS, since the
>> previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, I've attached a
>> document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure you know who they 
>> are.
>> Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish to get my facts so that
>> I'll
>>
>> be able to have enough information in order to make an informed choice as
>> to
>>
>> where to go from here. I did study with a Seminary, and obtain my master 
>> of
>> theology, in 2006, and I was licensed by my church to preach in 2005. It
>> was
>>
>> tough loosing Mom, and I know, she'd want me to continue doing what I
>> believe the Lord has called me to do. However, How am I going to be an
>> effective minister, if I don't have the blindness training, needed to
>> sirvive? Another concern I have, is I have learned some ministers start 
>> out
>> as by-vocational. In 2004, until now, I didn't see that aspect of it. I
>> have
>>
>> a batchors degree in criminal justice. Another not so wise disision on my
>> part. Mrs. Davis, I look forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert 
>> Sandefur
>>
>>
>>
>>
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