[Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

Fri Apr 23 16:14:15 UTC 2010

RJ,
Is there anyway you could come for a tour and hear first hand how the OAC
has changed?
Holly

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:48 AM, RJ Sandefur
<joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>wrote:

> Please email me off list holly. email is joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
> How has it changed? I thought they were tearing down the doorms. what are
> they replacing the dorms with. RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:34 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
> policy concerning out of state services
>
>
>   RJ,
>> The Orientation and Adjustment Center has changed a lot since we were
>> students.
>> Good luck,
>> Holly
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Rick Brown <rlbrown1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Kurt, I don't think RJ was in the military, so he wouldn't qualify for
>>> services from the VA.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Kirk
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:31 PM
>>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>>>  Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
>>> policy concerning out of state services
>>>
>>> RJ, I am curious as to whether or not you ever had rehab from Birmingham
>>> V.A.? I do know that I went their 10 years ago and found it quite a
>>> learning
>>>
>>> experience. I also know that your equipment that best fits your needs are
>>> given to you without charge. I found them quite thorough and when I
>>> returned
>>>
>>> from it I was quite capable. If you still decide to use the DBS and the
>>> civilian side of your options, I have been told that the NFB's Louisiana
>>> center is quite thorough as well. I do not know the cost of their
>>> program,
>>> as I have never been their, but I can assure you, in one man's opinion, I
>>> know both are capable and affective options for you! Your friend in the
>>> cause, Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kirk Harmon
>>> 1031 Lenmore CT.
>>> Orlando, FL. 32812
>>> Office: 407-380-3371
>>> Cell: 407-473-2176
>>>
>>> Founder
>>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress
>>> President-CEO
>>> FDCP Association
>>> 911 cell Phone Bank
>>> Manager
>>>
>>> Mayor's Veterans Advisory Counsel
>>>
>>> State of Florida Veterans Counsel
>>> Member
>>> NFB
>>> ACB
>>> TRIAD
>>> DAV
>>> BVA
>>> Disabled
>>> Advocate
>>>
>>> for Florida
>>>
>>> " F.D.C.P. Turning HOPE into REALITY"
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:38 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
>>> policy
>>> concerning out of state services
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, I need your feedback on what I should do. The District administrator
>>> wants to refer me to the lighthouse of the palmbeachs, but I do not want
>>> to
>>> go there. I want to go to LCB. Any tips, as to what I should say? RJ
>>> Please
>>> just keep your comments on the list. I just am asking for some guidance
>>> here. RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>> To: RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>> concerning out of state services
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your
>>> mother.
>>>
>>> If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can
>>> reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the Palm
>>> Beaches at this time for training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to
>>> help
>>> you in making your decision about training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because you
>>> attached it to your e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In order to assist you with training services, please call our office and
>>> ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or
>>> 866-225-0794.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>>
>>> District Administrator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>>> To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>> Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>> concerning
>>> out of state services
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for
>>> you
>>> concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy concerning out
>>> of
>>>
>>> state services. In 1999, I attended the rehabilitation center, which is
>>> now
>>> the orientation and adjustment center, and did not find the experience to
>>> be
>>>
>>> a pleasant one. In 2004, I closed my case with DBS, due to a disagreement
>>> with my councilor at the time. However, due to having recently lost my
>>> mother, and other factors, I believe I am in need of some adjustment to
>>> blindness training, and this training should be conducted at the
>>> Louisiana
>>> center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at the DBS web sight and came
>>> across the policy concerning out of state services:
>>> Out of State Services
>>> DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>>
>>> SUBJECT
>>> Out of State Services
>>>
>>> EFFECTIVE DATE
>>> July 9, 2003
>>>
>>> REVISION DATE
>>> February 14, 2008
>>>
>>> EXPIRATION DATE
>>> This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>>
>>> PURPOSE
>>>
>>> To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>>
>>> AUTHORITY
>>> 34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>>
>>> POLICY
>>> The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference for
>>> in-State services, provided that the preference does not effectively deny
>>> an
>>>
>>> individual a necessary service. If the individual chooses an out-of-State
>>> service at a higher cost than an in-State service, and either service
>>> would
>>> meet the individual's rehabilitation needs, the designated State unit is
>>> not
>>>
>>> responsible for those costs in excess of the cost of the in-State
>>> service.
>>> However, if the out-of-state services provides a unique service to meet
>>> the
>>> individual's rehabilitation plan, the Bureau Chief should be contacted to
>>> approve or disapproval such a service.
>>>
>>> Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 But
>>> compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 in RSA
>>> PD-01-03:
>>>
>>>
>>>     POLICY STATEMENT:  The State VR program must provide applicants
>>> and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to
>>> exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making
>>> decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers,
>>> settings for employment and service provision, and methods for
>>> procuring services.  To enable an individual to make such decisions,
>>> the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance
>>> needed by the individual.  The VR agency has the responsibility to
>>> implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop
>>> resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR
>>> services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process;
>>> these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with
>>> Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this
>>> mean,
>>> that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend LCB, due
>>> to
>>> causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with DBS, since the
>>> previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, I've attached a
>>> document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure you know who they
>>> are.
>>> Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish to get my facts so that
>>> I'll
>>>
>>> be able to have enough information in order to make an informed choice as
>>> to
>>>
>>> where to go from here. I did study with a Seminary, and obtain my master
>>> of
>>> theology, in 2006, and I was licensed by my church to preach in 2005. It
>>> was
>>>
>>> tough loosing Mom, and I know, she'd want me to continue doing what I
>>> believe the Lord has called me to do. However, How am I going to be an
>>> effective minister, if I don't have the blindness training, needed to
>>> sirvive? Another concern I have, is I have learned some ministers start
>>> out
>>> as by-vocational. In 2004, until now, I didn't see that aspect of it. I
>>> have
>>>
>>> a batchors degree in criminal justice. Another not so wise disision on my
>>> part. Mrs. Davis, I look forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert
>>> Sandefur
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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