[Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

Fri Apr 23 19:02:34 UTC 2010

No I'm afraid not. But What's this thing about the dorms being torn down?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's 
policy concerning out of state services


> RJ,
> Is there anyway you could come for a tour and hear first hand how the OAC
> has changed?
> Holly
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:48 AM, RJ Sandefur
> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Please email me off list holly. email is joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>> How has it changed? I thought they were tearing down the doorms. what are
>> they replacing the dorms with. RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:34 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
>> policy concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>>   RJ,
>>> The Orientation and Adjustment Center has changed a lot since we were
>>> students.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Holly
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Rick Brown <rlbrown1 at verizon.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kurt, I don't think RJ was in the military, so he wouldn't qualify for
>>>> services from the VA.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Kirk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:31 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and 
>>>> DBS's
>>>> policy concerning out of state services
>>>>
>>>> RJ, I am curious as to whether or not you ever had rehab from 
>>>> Birmingham
>>>> V.A.? I do know that I went their 10 years ago and found it quite a
>>>> learning
>>>>
>>>> experience. I also know that your equipment that best fits your needs 
>>>> are
>>>> given to you without charge. I found them quite thorough and when I
>>>> returned
>>>>
>>>> from it I was quite capable. If you still decide to use the DBS and the
>>>> civilian side of your options, I have been told that the NFB's 
>>>> Louisiana
>>>> center is quite thorough as well. I do not know the cost of their
>>>> program,
>>>> as I have never been their, but I can assure you, in one man's opinion, 
>>>> I
>>>> know both are capable and affective options for you! Your friend in the
>>>> cause, Kirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kirk Harmon
>>>> 1031 Lenmore CT.
>>>> Orlando, FL. 32812
>>>> Office: 407-380-3371
>>>> Cell: 407-473-2176
>>>>
>>>> Founder
>>>> Florida Disabled Citizens for Progress
>>>> President-CEO
>>>> FDCP Association
>>>> 911 cell Phone Bank
>>>> Manager
>>>>
>>>> Mayor's Veterans Advisory Counsel
>>>>
>>>> State of Florida Veterans Counsel
>>>> Member
>>>> NFB
>>>> ACB
>>>> TRIAD
>>>> DAV
>>>> BVA
>>>> Disabled
>>>> Advocate
>>>>
>>>> for Florida
>>>>
>>>> " F.D.C.P. Turning HOPE into REALITY"
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's
>>>> policy
>>>> concerning out of state services
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I need your feedback on what I should do. The District 
>>>> administrator
>>>> wants to refer me to the lighthouse of the palmbeachs, but I do not 
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> go there. I want to go to LCB. Any tips, as to what I should say? RJ
>>>> Please
>>>> just keep your comments on the list. I just am asking for some guidance
>>>> here. RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>>> To: RJ Sandefur
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>>> concerning out of state services
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your
>>>> mother.
>>>>
>>>> If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can
>>>> reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the Palm
>>>> Beaches at this time for training.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to
>>>> help
>>>> you in making your decision about training.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because 
>>>> you
>>>> attached it to your e-mail.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In order to assist you with training services, please call our office 
>>>> and
>>>> ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or
>>>> 866-225-0794.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>>>
>>>> District Administrator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ----
>>>> From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>>> Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>>> concerning
>>>> out of state services
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for
>>>> you
>>>> concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy concerning 
>>>> out
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> state services. In 1999, I attended the rehabilitation center, which is
>>>> now
>>>> the orientation and adjustment center, and did not find the experience 
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>> a pleasant one. In 2004, I closed my case with DBS, due to a 
>>>> disagreement
>>>> with my councilor at the time. However, due to having recently lost my
>>>> mother, and other factors, I believe I am in need of some adjustment to
>>>> blindness training, and this training should be conducted at the
>>>> Louisiana
>>>> center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at the DBS web sight and came
>>>> across the policy concerning out of state services:
>>>> Out of State Services
>>>> DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>>>
>>>> SUBJECT
>>>> Out of State Services
>>>>
>>>> EFFECTIVE DATE
>>>> July 9, 2003
>>>>
>>>> REVISION DATE
>>>> February 14, 2008
>>>>
>>>> EXPIRATION DATE
>>>> This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>>>
>>>> PURPOSE
>>>>
>>>> To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>>>
>>>> AUTHORITY
>>>> 34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>>>
>>>> POLICY
>>>> The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference for
>>>> in-State services, provided that the preference does not effectively 
>>>> deny
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>> individual a necessary service. If the individual chooses an 
>>>> out-of-State
>>>> service at a higher cost than an in-State service, and either service
>>>> would
>>>> meet the individual's rehabilitation needs, the designated State unit 
>>>> is
>>>> not
>>>>
>>>> responsible for those costs in excess of the cost of the in-State
>>>> service.
>>>> However, if the out-of-state services provides a unique service to meet
>>>> the
>>>> individual's rehabilitation plan, the Bureau Chief should be contacted 
>>>> to
>>>> approve or disapproval such a service.
>>>>
>>>> Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 But
>>>> compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 in RSA
>>>> PD-01-03:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     POLICY STATEMENT:  The State VR program must provide applicants
>>>> and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to
>>>> exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making
>>>> decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers,
>>>> settings for employment and service provision, and methods for
>>>> procuring services.  To enable an individual to make such decisions,
>>>> the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance
>>>> needed by the individual.  The VR agency has the responsibility to
>>>> implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop
>>>> resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR
>>>> services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process;
>>>> these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with
>>>> Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this
>>>> mean,
>>>> that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend LCB, 
>>>> due
>>>> to
>>>> causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with DBS, since the
>>>> previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, I've attached a
>>>> document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure you know who they
>>>> are.
>>>> Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish to get my facts so that
>>>> I'll
>>>>
>>>> be able to have enough information in order to make an informed choice 
>>>> as
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> where to go from here. I did study with a Seminary, and obtain my 
>>>> master
>>>> of
>>>> theology, in 2006, and I was licensed by my church to preach in 2005. 
>>>> It
>>>> was
>>>>
>>>> tough loosing Mom, and I know, she'd want me to continue doing what I
>>>> believe the Lord has called me to do. However, How am I going to be an
>>>> effective minister, if I don't have the blindness training, needed to
>>>> sirvive? Another concern I have, is I have learned some ministers start
>>>> out
>>>> as by-vocational. In 2004, until now, I didn't see that aspect of it. I
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>> a batchors degree in criminal justice. Another not so wise disision on 
>>>> my
>>>> part. Mrs. Davis, I look forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert
>>>> Sandefur
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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