[Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearstocome!!!

Sherri flmom2006 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 10 17:42:51 UTC 2011 

It's always amazing when we find out how much we can do  as a team with our 
guide dogs! Congrats to you and to your dog.

Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! 
NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearstocome!!!


> Hi Sherri,
> Weather the birdcage has any visual importance or not to people who could 
> see, using it as a landmark in that article was pretty misleading. 
> Otherwise it was helpful info.  The lower lobby relief area was easy to 
> find after the first try.  Only time my dog messed up with the elavators 
> was during rush hour times and she kind of fell into "follow" mode a few 
> times. Not her fault she was following people who didn't know where they 
> were going.  This event was an eye opener for me concerning my dog.  I was 
> concerned as I have not traveled with her at all since I brought her home 
> almost four years ago.  This was also the first time I traveled alone 
> since I totally lost my vision.  She performed so much better than I 
> expected her to. Many people told me to bring a cane as there would be 
> times when she would be beat and to just let her rest in the room.  Even 
> with the stress of the whole event every time I headed for the door of my 
> room she was there wagging her tail ready to go.  I never ended up using 
> the cane at all.
> Bill Kociaba
> CRUISEONE
> Bill at Ycruise.com
> 954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
> 7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! 
> NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearsto come!!!
>
>
>> Bill, I'm with you. As a guide dog user, it was difficult to find the 
>> relief area, since my dog just wanted to go to any set of doors. I too 
>> thought the bird cage would have actual bird sounds, but it did not, so I 
>> don't see the purpose. Maybe someone can describe it to us and its visual 
>> significance. My dog found the elevators for 4 through 10 every time 
>> except once. I also navigated through the areas several times with just 
>> my cane, as my dog needed a rest.
>>
>> Sherri
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National 
>> ConventionOrlandomanyyearsto come!!!
>>
>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>> I don't know you at all and have no idea how long you have been blind or 
>>> what you do now or what you did before.  I  will totally aggree with you 
>>> that the lobby area really offers very little in landmarks.  I read that 
>>> descriptive article about the hotel prior to leaving and was expecting 
>>> to hear a bunch of squacking birds in that birdcage.  I figured that was 
>>> going to be an obvious landmark to work from but never heard a peep from 
>>> it.  Once out of the lobby area though things weren't really too bad. 
>>> The lower lobby was pretty simple if you kept your ears open and the 
>>> convention area as well.  I did have the advantage of a very smart dog 
>>> who knew how to find the elavators though. At least most of the 
>>> time(LOL). The fact that there were sevral sets of glass doors leading 
>>> outside did make it very hard to locate the relief area near the meeting 
>>> rooms as well. And no matter how indipendent everyone claims to be I 
>>> heard plenty of people asking, "where is...." right up to the last day. 
>>> There were plenty of hotel staff around and if you were having trouble 
>>> and chose to not ask...well then thats just being prideful and foolish. 
>>> On the other hand I really found people screaming, "escalators over 
>>> here" over and over more of a distraction than a help. When things were 
>>> quiet the sound of those escalators was pretty obvious. I have been in 
>>> hotels that were both easier and more difficult to work through and 
>>> always survived.If you hated this one, don't try any of the casino 
>>> propertys in Vegas or Reno that are actually designed to make it hard to 
>>> find your way out!  If this hotel and its challenges keeps you away from 
>>> the convention in the future that is sad.  I came in contact with sevral 
>>> O and M people during the course of the week and I am sure that if you 
>>> were to make contact with one of them that they wouldn't mind spending a 
>>> bit of time with you helping you to get a better handle on things.
>>>
>>> On the subject of being "well adjusted"..I thought that one had been 
>>> exhausted already but if not, being well adjusted to anything does not 
>>> mean you are always happy and glad you have that issue it means 
>>> accepting it!  I heard someone use the word embrace it...I don't know 
>>> how you can embrace losing your sight but you surley can accept that it 
>>> has happened and at the moment there is nothing you or any of us can do 
>>> about it...
>>> Can we please put the well adjusted and how bad the hotel was topics to 
>>> rest.  Seems they are getting beat to death.
>>>
>>> Bill Kociaba
>>> CRUISEONE
>>> Bill at Ycruise.com
>>> 954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>>> 7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbiker at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National Convention 
>>> Orlandomanyyearsto come!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>I need to respond to this.  YOu folksw on this group don't know me very 
>>>>well.  You think you do but you don't.  From now on, I'm simply going to 
>>>>keep my mouth shut! I won't say anything!
>>>> This place was extremely complex for me as an individual.  I was told 
>>>> by another blind person who has been at events here this place is 
>>>> difficult to navigate.  Places I see as complex take me a while to 
>>>> grasp.  If I can't form a mental picture in my mind of something, the 
>>>> item makes no sense to me.
>>>> IF you know *ONE* person who is *TOTALLY* adjusted to their blindness 
>>>> I"d certainly like to meet them.  You never can be totally adjusted to 
>>>> anything 100% of the time.
>>>>
>>>> Matt Roberts
>>>> 386-679-1986
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:27 PM, "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Matt my friend, when will you start to accept your blindness and move
>>>>> forward without complaints? I have been listening to you complain 
>>>>> about
>>>>> everything you are in contact with ever since you started commenting 
>>>>> on this
>>>>> site again. I have knoown you for many years and you have always had 
>>>>> such a
>>>>> negative attitude about most everything and it is truly not what is 
>>>>> your
>>>>> perception of your surroundings as much as it is you and your 
>>>>> negativity
>>>>> about life in general! Please get counseling or something so you can 
>>>>> start
>>>>> to move forward without such a negative attitude and perhaps your 
>>>>> comments
>>>>> would be more enjoyable to read. I had many friends of mine that were 
>>>>> there,
>>>>> as was I, and even the Totals with  me said once they learned their 
>>>>> way
>>>>> around they thought it was easy to do and they loved the Hotel.I have 
>>>>> to say
>>>>> however, they all have a very positive attitude about life and have 
>>>>> accepted
>>>>> the fact that ,YES, they are in fact totally blind and things are 
>>>>> different
>>>>> but it doesn't have to be miserable to enhjoy their lives. You need to 
>>>>> get
>>>>> help to learn how to think positive about your life and quit 
>>>>> complaining
>>>>> about all that  is around you. Once you embrace your blindness and 
>>>>> it's
>>>>> lifestyle, then my friend, I feel you will  start to smile more and 
>>>>> frown a
>>>>> lot less! Matt, Just  one man's observation of you since I have known 
>>>>> you,
>>>>> and want you to try and understand that none of us need negativity in 
>>>>> our
>>>>> lives unnecessarily. Please try and change your attitude not just for
>>>>> yourself, but for all that is around and in contact with you! Your 
>>>>> friend in
>>>>> the cause, Kirk Harmon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National Convention 
>>>>> Orlandomanyyears
>>>>> to come!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree , a positive attitude always helps. One may not like a 
>>>>> situation but
>>>>> the only thing you have control over is the way you react to it.
>>>>> Holly
>>>>>
>>>>> Holly
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2011 10:07 AM, "Denise Valkema" <valkemadenise at aol.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can take a brown car right out lobby entrance for $5 for everyone 
>>>>> in car
>>>>> or ask a friend  who drives to take you to Publix.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can hook up with member or friend and get around together. You 
>>>>> have two
>>>>> years to work on solutions. A positive attitude helps, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise
>>>>> -- Sent from Denise's Palm Pre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2011 12:11 AM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought the hotel was really ...
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbiker at yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nf...
>>>>> > On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Tara Prakash Tripathi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >> What did you not like about this hotel?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> > I found the layout extremely confusing.  I spent 1 hour just 
>>>>> trying to
>>>>> get
>>>>>
>>>>> > from the registration table to the elevators leading to my room. 
>>>>> When
>>>>>
>>>>> > you're trying to figure out where you are, where you want to go, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> dodge
>>>>>
>>>>> > people it's difficult.  I have no problem traveling, but from 
>>>>> what i
>>>>> can
>>>>>
>>>>> > tell there are no landmarks.  A week is not enough time to learn 
>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> > hotel.  I'd need to spend a lot of time, and practice over and 
>>>>> over.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>
>>>>> > with some friends and one of them is sighted.  I do let him guide 
>>>>> me,
>>>>> but
>>>>>
>>>>> > I should be able to pick up routes, since we always go the same 
>>>>> way.
>>>>> NOt
>>>>>
>>>>> > this hotel!
>>>>>
>>>>> > The food is very expensive, and there aren't any eating 
>>>>> establishments
>>>>>
>>>>> > nearby.  If you want to not pay a lot of money for food, you need 
>>>>> a
>>>>> car.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I know Publix is across the street, but you have to get out to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> road.
>>>>>
>>>>> > With my physical disability, I would not risk trying to walk that 
>>>>> far,
>>>>>
>>>>> > especially when no sidewalks exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Matt Roberts blindbiker at yahoo.com
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
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