[Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras

Fri May 6 18:40:30 UTC 2011

Dear Bill,

He doesn't.
His buddies in motorcycle gang want him to sign it.
Motorcyclist don't stop for Right on Red, because they would need to hold 
their bikes up by putting their feet down and coming to a full stop would 
make them do this.
They get tagged by the cameras very often because they do not come to that 
full stop on Red before making their turn.
They are trying to say that there are more accidents caused by people 
stopping for the Red lights, ( gee, I thought that meant go faster), and 
making people run into them from behind.
I wonder what the guy behind was thinking the yellow light meant at this 
point.
The the truth is that facts show they reduce accidents and most places 
lengthen the yellow light just a bit, to help prevent the rear end 
accidents.
The lights are set according to the posted speed limit of the roads they 
control and the drivers should have lots of time to stop for the lights.
I think that they are good and no one who goes out in public without a bag 
over their head, can have any expectations of not being observed by somebody 
somewhere.
If it is good to take down the stoplight cameras, then they should also take 
out the ones at the ATM, the Banks, stores and everywhere else people use 
them to observe and keep their places secure and safe from crime.  The 
cameras are a neutral witness and will not lie for anyone.  They give a 
record of just what took place and when.
One of my chapter members was struck by a driver doing a Right on Red 
without stopping back before Xmas and they broke her pelvis in 3 places and 
that has forced her to retire from her job with the County's Emergency 
Management.  My own daughter has gotten two tickets for running the lights 
and I think that is good.  I have told her that she drives to fast and too 
close and she will not listen.
Governor Scott is the worst governor we have ever had.
He has his own agenda and has done another to help the job situations except 
for his big donors.

David Evans
Running a Red light is a crime afterall.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Outman" <woutman at earthlink.net>
To: "'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras

> Thanks for sending this out to the list.
>
> I already sent an email to Sen. Lynn about this.
>
> If the Senate is stupid enough to pass this we need to urge a veto by Gov.
> Scott; hopefully he'll have enough sense to do that if necessary.
>
> Bill Outman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Patricia A. Lipovsky
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:16 AM
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> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras
>
>
> Put brakes on red-light camera repeal
> Editorial by Orlando Sentinel May 5, 2011
> Sen. Mike Haridopolos must keep red-light cameras alive.
> Proving as wishy-washy as teenagers, the Florida House on Monday completed
> its reckless red-light camera roundabout.
>
> Last year, legislators granted local governments authority to install the
> safety devices at intersections. This year, Rep. Richard Corcoran rolled 
> out
> House Bill 4087 to rescind that thumbs up. Disappointingly, lawmakers 
> bought
> the New Port Richey Republican's misleading spiel about red-light cameras
> causing more accidents than they prevented.
>
> The measure now heads to the Senate. There, a companion bill squeaked
> through the Senate Transportation Committee in late March. It has remained
> stalled ever since.
>
> Given the Senate bill's inertia and a fast-approaching Friday legislative
> adjournment, conventional wisdom suggests red-light cameras should survive
> this wrongheaded challenge. Only, this Legislature has poked a stick in 
> the
> eye of conventional wisdom.
>
> Look no further than House Speaker Dean Cannon. The Winter Park Republican
> cast one of the decisive yes votes that pushed through Corcoran's bill in 
> a
> 59-57 photo finish. Cannon - who was for red-light camera use before he 
> was
> against it.
>
> If Wrongway Cannon can so suddenly lose the bearings that once pointed
> toward public safety, it's not inconceivable that this stalled but still
> dangerous bill could gain 11th-hour traction.
>
> We hope that Senate President Mike Haridopolos steps up to ensure the bill
> never sees the Senate floor.
>
> All along, Corcoran has insisted that the cameras boost crash rates and
> produce ticketing errors.
>
> Even though law-enforcement officials back the devices.
>
> Even though researchers at the Center for Urban Transportation Research at
> the University of South Florida and the Insurance Institute for Highway
> Safety have concluded that red-light cameras prevent accidents and save
> lives.
>
> And even though positive outcomes in districts represented by other House
> Republicans rebut Corcoran's Chicken Little assertions. Rep. Bryan Nelson
> noted traffic tickets at a busy intersection in his hometown Apopka have
> plunged from nearly 300 last August to 18 within five months.
>
> As Nelson put it: "Folks, that's safety." That's right.
>
> The Insurance Institute's analysis found red-light cameras reduced the
> per-capita rate of deadly red-light-running crashes by 24 percent. Yet, 
> some
> lawmakers prefer to champion flawed ideology over public safety.
>
> Rep. Chris Dorworth of Lake Mary - continuing to prove he's unfit to 
> become
> House speaker in 2014 - insisted the cameras promote "a nanny state." He
> says he supports personal responsibility and limited government.
>
> If public safety is no longer the purview of government, what is? "The 
> chief
> purpose of government is to protect life. Abandon that and you have
> abandoned all." So said Thomas Jefferson.
>
> Dorworth's nonsensical comments - "You know what, you can always be 
> safer" -
> suggest he hasn't any abandonment issues.
>
> But as Rep. Eddy Gonzalez noted, now isn't the time to abandon red-light
> cameras: "I believe in my heart that we're saving lives."
>
> Fortunately, Haridopolos has more to lean on than heartfelt suppositions.
> There are studies. Statistics. And the lives that are obscured in the
> numbers. One-hundred-fifty nine. That's how many lives red-light cameras
> saved in the Insurance Institute analysis. And had the devices stood 
> sentry
> in all large cities, some 815 people might be alive today.
>
> What better way for an aspiring U.S. senator to show leadership now than 
> to
> ensure government honors its first responsibility: protecting the people.
>
>
>
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