[Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras

Sat May 7 02:31:44 UTC 2011

Amen David!!

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From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras

>
> Dear Bill,
>
> He doesn't.
> His buddies in motorcycle gang want him to sign it.
> Motorcyclist don't stop for Right on Red, because they would need to hold 
> their bikes up by putting their feet down and coming to a full stop would 
> make them do this.
> They get tagged by the cameras very often because they do not come to that 
> full stop on Red before making their turn.
> They are trying to say that there are more accidents caused by people 
> stopping for the Red lights, ( gee, I thought that meant go faster), and 
> making people run into them from behind.
> I wonder what the guy behind was thinking the yellow light meant at this 
> point.
> The the truth is that facts show they reduce accidents and most places 
> lengthen the yellow light just a bit, to help prevent the rear end 
> accidents.
> The lights are set according to the posted speed limit of the roads they 
> control and the drivers should have lots of time to stop for the lights.
> I think that they are good and no one who goes out in public without a bag 
> over their head, can have any expectations of not being observed by 
> somebody somewhere.
> If it is good to take down the stoplight cameras, then they should also 
> take out the ones at the ATM, the Banks, stores and everywhere else people 
> use them to observe and keep their places secure and safe from crime.  The 
> cameras are a neutral witness and will not lie for anyone.  They give a 
> record of just what took place and when.
> One of my chapter members was struck by a driver doing a Right on Red 
> without stopping back before Xmas and they broke her pelvis in 3 places 
> and that has forced her to retire from her job with the County's Emergency 
> Management.  My own daughter has gotten two tickets for running the lights 
> and I think that is good.  I have told her that she drives to fast and too 
> close and she will not listen.
> Governor Scott is the worst governor we have ever had.
> He has his own agenda and has done another to help the job situations 
> except for his big donors.
>
> David Evans
> Running a Red light is a crime afterall.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Outman" <woutman at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras
>
>
>> Thanks for sending this out to the list.
>>
>> I already sent an email to Sen. Lynn about this.
>>
>> If the Senate is stupid enough to pass this we need to urge a veto by 
>> Gov.
>> Scott; hopefully he'll have enough sense to do that if necessary.
>>
>> Bill Outman
>>
>>
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>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Patricia A. Lipovsky
>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:16 AM
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>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Last chance to save redlight cameras
>>
>>
>> Put brakes on red-light camera repeal
>> Editorial by Orlando Sentinel May 5, 2011
>> Sen. Mike Haridopolos must keep red-light cameras alive.
>> Proving as wishy-washy as teenagers, the Florida House on Monday 
>> completed
>> its reckless red-light camera roundabout.
>>
>> Last year, legislators granted local governments authority to install the
>> safety devices at intersections. This year, Rep. Richard Corcoran rolled 
>> out
>> House Bill 4087 to rescind that thumbs up. Disappointingly, lawmakers 
>> bought
>> the New Port Richey Republican's misleading spiel about red-light cameras
>> causing more accidents than they prevented.
>>
>> The measure now heads to the Senate. There, a companion bill squeaked
>> through the Senate Transportation Committee in late March. It has 
>> remained
>> stalled ever since.
>>
>> Given the Senate bill's inertia and a fast-approaching Friday legislative
>> adjournment, conventional wisdom suggests red-light cameras should 
>> survive
>> this wrongheaded challenge. Only, this Legislature has poked a stick in 
>> the
>> eye of conventional wisdom.
>>
>> Look no further than House Speaker Dean Cannon. The Winter Park 
>> Republican
>> cast one of the decisive yes votes that pushed through Corcoran's bill in 
>> a
>> 59-57 photo finish. Cannon - who was for red-light camera use before he 
>> was
>> against it.
>>
>> If Wrongway Cannon can so suddenly lose the bearings that once pointed
>> toward public safety, it's not inconceivable that this stalled but still
>> dangerous bill could gain 11th-hour traction.
>>
>> We hope that Senate President Mike Haridopolos steps up to ensure the 
>> bill
>> never sees the Senate floor.
>>
>> All along, Corcoran has insisted that the cameras boost crash rates and
>> produce ticketing errors.
>>
>> Even though law-enforcement officials back the devices.
>>
>> Even though researchers at the Center for Urban Transportation Research 
>> at
>> the University of South Florida and the Insurance Institute for Highway
>> Safety have concluded that red-light cameras prevent accidents and save
>> lives.
>>
>> And even though positive outcomes in districts represented by other House
>> Republicans rebut Corcoran's Chicken Little assertions. Rep. Bryan Nelson
>> noted traffic tickets at a busy intersection in his hometown Apopka have
>> plunged from nearly 300 last August to 18 within five months.
>>
>> As Nelson put it: "Folks, that's safety." That's right.
>>
>> The Insurance Institute's analysis found red-light cameras reduced the
>> per-capita rate of deadly red-light-running crashes by 24 percent. Yet, 
>> some
>> lawmakers prefer to champion flawed ideology over public safety.
>>
>> Rep. Chris Dorworth of Lake Mary - continuing to prove he's unfit to 
>> become
>> House speaker in 2014 - insisted the cameras promote "a nanny state." He
>> says he supports personal responsibility and limited government.
>>
>> If public safety is no longer the purview of government, what is? "The 
>> chief
>> purpose of government is to protect life. Abandon that and you have
>> abandoned all." So said Thomas Jefferson.
>>
>> Dorworth's nonsensical comments - "You know what, you can always be 
>> safer" -
>> suggest he hasn't any abandonment issues.
>>
>> But as Rep. Eddy Gonzalez noted, now isn't the time to abandon red-light
>> cameras: "I believe in my heart that we're saving lives."
>>
>> Fortunately, Haridopolos has more to lean on than heartfelt suppositions.
>> There are studies. Statistics. And the lives that are obscured in the
>> numbers. One-hundred-fifty nine. That's how many lives red-light cameras
>> saved in the Insurance Institute analysis. And had the devices stood 
>> sentry
>> in all large cities, some 815 people might be alive today.
>>
>> What better way for an aspiring U.S. senator to show leadership now than 
>> to
>> ensure government honors its first responsibility: protecting the people.
>>
>>
>>
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