[nfbmi-talk] student division question

Sun Oct 26 00:44:11 UTC 2014

Fred,

   Perhaps the question should be that if the event is to follow the NFBMi 
policies , it would be helpful to have the purpose and plan approved by the 
president.  After all, if a division goes  outside the perimeters and causes 
a problem for our public image or violates the charter,then who has to 
answer for it.  I cntend that it would be the affiliate president in the 
end.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'joe harcz Comcast'" <joeharcz at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet 
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question

> Hello,
>
> There are 2 points, here.  First, Elizabeth is correct that the Student
> Division does not need approval to hold an event.  However, if the event 
> is
> to be funded from affilliate general funds, the board would need to 
> approve
> such funding.  If the students raise their own money, then, it seems to me
> they may do any kind of event, commensurate with NFBMI policy, they 
> choose.
>
> There was extensive discussion of an employment seminar at the leadership
> retreat.  As Dave states, the board did not appropriate any funding for 
> the
> event.  Jordyn did present an estimated budget which did not mention 
> funding
> sources.  I believe it was to be in March.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:37 PM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
>
> The proposal was to have the State affiliate to fund this seminar, using
> already existing resources like BSBP, the One-stops, etc. to the tune of
> $12,000.
>
> So though no formal proposal was put forward, which is what Lydia was 
> asking
> for the notion of funding this event and the dollar amount were mentioned 
> at
> the leadership retreat.
>
> So Dave is right on in his statement and he answered Lydia's questions .
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'David Robinson'" <drob1946 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet
> Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>
>
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> Since when does the state student division need to seek the approval
>> of the state affiliate President to hold an event? The state student
>> division has its own board and its own treasury. As long as the state
>> student division board approves of the event and has the money in its
>> own treasury, there should be no need for any kind of special
>> approval. I have never seen any other chapter or division seek the
>> approval of the state affiliate president to hold an event, so why
>> would it be any different for the state student division?
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Robinson [mailto:drob1946 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:19 PM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>
>> Elizabeth,
>>
>>   The student division can hold an event if it is approved by the
>> president. If funds are requested then the board has to approve such
>> an expenditure.  I do not know the plans as of yet, but as far as I
>> know, the board has recieved no report on any plans or any approval.
>>
>> Dave Robinson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'David Robinson'" <drob1946 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan
>> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>
>>
>>> Hello Dave,
>>>
>>> Unless the state student division is interested in requesting
>>> financial assistance from the state affiliate, I do not believe the
>>> state student division needs to seek any kind of special permission
>>> from the state affiliate to host and event.
>>>
>>> The last I heard about this, the state student division was looking
>>> into planning an employment seminar during the last part of March. I
>>> do not know if this was discussed any further during state convention.
>>> It sounds as though J.J. is in charge of the logistics for this
>>> event, so perhaps he can provide more information about it.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> David Robinson via nfbmi-talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:25 PM
>>> To: Lydia Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; Lydia
>>> Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; Lydia Anne
>>> Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>
>>> Lydia,
>>>
>>>   I do not believe that the student division has approached the board
>>> to even have such a seminar.
>>>
>>> Dave Robinson
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lydia Anne Schuck via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:04 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Jordyn or any other student division folk:
>>>> I am wondering how the planning is going for a student seminar...the
>>>> planning started at the leadership retreat.  I couldn't get the
>>>> convention
>>>
>>>> stream so I did not hear any updates on it.  If you have a date, I
>>>> would like to get it on the parent lists.
>>>>
>>>> Lydia Schuck, MSEd
>>>> Research Associate, National Secondary Transition Technical
>>>> Assistance Center Western Michigan University
>>>> 1908 W. Michigan Avenue, Mailstop 5259 Kalamazoo, MI  49008 phone
>>>> 269.387.5990
>>>>
>>>>
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