[Ag-eq] A day of horrors

Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq ag-eq at nfbnet.org
Mon Jun 2 13:16:54 UTC 2014


Hi Jewel.
I'm glad Peter is OK and back home again.
I'm sorry about the deaths of your goats.
Where does the salmonella come from?  Is it hanging around in the grass?

Who will be being milked in the milk shed?
Tracy
> Peter , as is becoming the usual state of affairs with a rabbit of his
> adventurous spirit, is safe
> and well.  Sam, my honorary shepherd, caught him this morning in, what
> used to be and will be again,
> the milking shed.
> I think that, probably, he had been trying to get back to the enclosure to
> which he had returned
> after his last walk-about, but all the gates were closed.
> When Sam caught and delivered him back into my care, such as it is, we
> talked for a while at the
> front door and, when Sam left, I took Peter through the house, which, to
> him, must have stunk of
> dog, a stench that was to be avoided at all costs, and then, compounded to
> phat, I attached his
> collar chain to the place in the living-room, which must have been even
> more redolent of the feared
> smell as it is where I tie Guideon up when there is food that can be
> snatched;  however, he may not
> have been as stressed as I thought he might have been because he eat a
> cauliflower stalk that Pearl,
> my homehilp put on the hearth in front of him.
> Now, coming to the death of Heidi.  Today, being a public holiday, Queen's
> Birthday, the fecal
> matter that Joel, the vet, collected will not be sent to the lab for
> culturing until tomorrow, and
> we will not expect the results before Friday, at the earliest.
> Joel is,fairly sure that Minstrel and Heidi's  killer was salmonella.
> Apparently, it has been, particularly, prevalent in the Gore area for the
> past 2 years, and the
> danger times for it to strike are between the months of January and June,
> so that, certainly, ties
> in with the sudden death of the goats.
> It, really, is just about impossible to spot as the animal, usually sheep
> or goats, looks,
> perfectly, well but is dead within 24 hours.  It's only manifestation, and
> one that is not a
> manifestation at all and is readily misread,  is the the animal looks a
> little puffed out which can,
> and usually, does mean that it has had a good day's grazing.  It strikes,
> mostly but not
> exclusively,  animals that are in good condition rather than those that
> are not!
> The next thing is, and you have to be johnny-on-the-spot to be aware of it
> is that the animal will
> start to have diarrhea/scour.  This scouring may contain minute portions
> of gut tissue.
> If detected in time, a hefty dose of penicillin may stop the advance of
> the condition, but, on the
> other hand, it may not.
> Joel said that Heidi's temperature was well down, but here is the
> interesting fact, when I found her
> dead, and she must have died a very short time before I went out to the
> barn to give her another
> drink of dexalite, I found that her nose and tongue that had been very
> cold were back to normal.
> Joel's explanation of this phenomenon was that it is rather like what the
> human body does to protect
> itself against hyperthermia;  warm blood is drawn away from the
> extremities and reserved for
> supporting the brain and internal organs, but when death is near, that
> warm blood flows back to the
> nose, ears and   feet, thus they return to near normal temperatures.
>
> Salmonella is a condition for which there is a vaccine, and, indeed, Heidi
> and Minstrel had been
> vaccinated against it when they were kids, but, from the evidence, it
> needs to be boosted every few
> years.
>
>        Jewel
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> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] A day of horrors
>
>
> Hi Jewel:
>
> I'm so sorry to hear about your goat and your rabbit.  It always seems
> that bad
> things happen all at once.  I hope the vet is able to find out what
> happened to
> the goat.  A few years ago one of my mules suddenly died and the vets had
> no
> idea why.  She was fairly young and healthy.  We never figured it out and
> it
> still bothers me.
>
> Good luck catching that rabbit; you are always having a rabbit adventure.
> I
> wonder if you could get a live trap.  I've used them for catching cats, so
> maybe it would work for a rabbit.
>
> Please keep us posted.
>
> Nella
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Jewel via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
>
>> My remaining goat, Heidi died today in, precisely, the same way as her
>> brother, Minstrel, did a week
>> ago:  absolutely no sign that there is anything wrong and then:  WHOOSH:
>> they are down and there
>> seems nothing that can be done.
>> I called the vet, but he didn't have any idea, but made some
>> suggestions:  an
>> infectious disease as
>> the 2 goats had died within a few days of each other, salmonella or some
>> such, but, personally, I
>> think that it was my old nemesis of Clostridia, which is a
>> naturally-occurring soil organism which,
>> usually, is quite innocuous, and then, for some unknown reason, it goes
>> manic
>> and strikes at the
>> speed of light and without any warning.
>> The vet took a fecal sample which will be cultured and then he might be
>> able
>> to find out what it
>> was/is.
>> I have had goats die of gastro-enteritis which is caused by the C
>> organism,
>> but not for many years.
>> When the vet came, Heidi's body temperature had dropped markedly, but on
>> my
>> last trip out to the
>> barn to give her her next lot of dexalite, and found her dead:  she had
>> died
>> not long before I got
>> out there, her temperature, judging from her nose and tongue, was
>> normal:
>> very strange!
>> Not only did I lose Heidi, but my dog killed and eat one of my rabbits.
>> They
>> had escaped: god knows
>> how:  from there night shed and had come through into the backyard.
>> Guideon
>> has been waiting since
>> January for just such an opportunity and he took it, but Peter, the
>> veteran
>> escapee got away.  I
>> don't know where he is now, but he was under the house.  I don't know
>> how we
>> are going to catch the
>> little bastard, and I have to keep the dog on a long line until we do or
>> I
>> give up.
>>
>>          Jewel
>>
>>
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