[blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

L A Mendez lmendez at twcny.rr.com
Tue Sep 28 01:50:59 UTC 2010


The law school I attended required all exams  to be turned in on an exam
booklet so I used a reader/transcriber which did require extra time to get
through the mechanics of getting the answers into the booklet. 

I did use a typewriter for the essay part of the New York bar exam and
Braille to read the Multistate   part of the exam.  However, I did  dictate
the multiple choice answers to  a  transcriber who recorded them on the
answer page. 

My most vivid memory   from the bar exam was coming home and sitting in
front of the TV with a bottle of Johny  Walker Red in hand and waking up in
the same chair next morning to find it empty. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:31 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

When I attended law school in 1978, I was not allowed to take the LSAT. 
However, I was not granted extra time for the exams.  I guess they would
have granted the extra time if I had requested it.  No one offered the extra
time.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams


> In reality before technology blind studentswere done at the same time 
> as their sighted classmates and continue to do so. Over the years I 
> have taken many law courses and while I may have been allowed extra 
> time I very seldom actually needed to use it. At times this was quite 
> a shock to professors.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>
>
>> I'm not sure what it's like in the sattes but isn't the bar a two day 
>> process? do blind people get time and a half to write the exam or how 
>> does that work? It's something to look into now as I'm always trying 
>> to make lives better for future students so if I speak with the law 
>> school in Saskatchewan they might have some blind people before me 
>> that have gone through and whatever system they used worked. I know 
>> some people will say "blind people before you went through without 
>> technology so what did they do?" My response to that is yes they did 
>> but now that technology is there and we are using it more exams 
>> should be easier to take. I'm waiting for the day that a blind person 
>> can keep up with his classmates with the four courses or whatever it 
>> takes to be done the same time that they are.
>>
>> Blaine
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>
>>
>> Thank you Aser. I was not aware that I might be going through the 
>> exact same thing with the Bar.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Aser Tolentino
>> <agtolentino at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> My school and the CA bar use ExamSoft. While I've heard talk of 
>>> greater accessibility now, at the time I started law school three 
>>> years ago it was not possible to run a screen reader alongside the 
>>> software; I confirmed this with the sample test and by speaking to 
>>> the school's IT department. My advice would be to request the school 
>>> forgo your use of the software as a testing accommodation. The issue 
>>> will come up again when you take the bar and could be more 
>>> contentious then.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Aser
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kate Carroll
>>> <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Good evening everyone!
>>> >
>>> > I am looking for some advice concerning law school exams. If 
>>> > anyone has
>>> any
>>> > thoughts on my question, i would greatly appreciate hearing them.
>>> >
>>> > I am in my first year of law school. I currently use a Dell 
>>> > Latitutde
>>> with
>>> > Windows 7, and ZoomText for magnification and reading. I will have 
>>> > to use the software Exam4 for my upcoming exams. I have heard that 
>>> > this software will likely prevent ZoomText (and possibly the 
>>> > built-in Windows magnification program) from working if I attempt 
>>> > to use them during an exam.
>>> > I havent actually tested the problem with the tech guys at the 
>>> > school because I need to get a Zoomtext license and right now 
>>> > don't have
>>> Zoomtext
>>> > on my laptop.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have experience with this Exam4 software, and is a 
>>> > user of ZoomText? What did you do to get around this (alleged)  
>>> > problem? Any
>>> ideas,
>>> > again, are welcome.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Kate
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Kathryn CARROLL
>>> > St. John's University College of Law 2013
>>> > 631-521-318 C
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>> --
>> Kathryn CARROLL
>> St. John's University College of Law 2013
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