[blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 119, Issue 19

Sexton, bruce philosopher25 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 26 22:06:43 UTC 2014


Dear Chris,

 

Thanks for taking time from your busy schedule to write.  

 

What book share books did you use?  I am using lsat clarity: the first
self-study guide, from book share. 

 

 

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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart,
Christopher K
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 7:39 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 119, Issue 19

 

Hello All,

In response to Aimee's questions, I will e-mail you after finals. I will
tell you that I am a 1L and finished last semester ranked highly in my
class. Moreover, I just received a best brief award on our 1L writing
project and am working this summer in a paid position for the attorney
general of Kentucky. I have found that, in general, though testing may take
more time, the classwork itself is actually reasonably similar if you're
efficient about it. For instance, rather than highlighting, I digitally copy
important sentences from my casebooks into my notes as a supplement to my
casebriefs. Usually, when I get called on in class, I've already located the
meat of the decision. This takes practice and critical reading coupled with
a lot of frustration.

 

It is important not to take shortcuts. You'll find some of your classmates
relying exclusively on Barbri study aids or Q&As, and you may find yourself
tempted to do the same. It's important to remember that supplements are
meant to do just that, supplement and can never substitute for the critical
reading process. This process will lead you to better issue spotting on your
exams. Exams are, afterall, pretty much the only grade you will receive in
most law school classes. In fact, for all four of my doctrinal classes this
semester, the final exams are 100% of our final grade.

 

Now, as for the LSAT, I didn't take a prep course. I studied using only
materials available on Bookshare. This worked for me and saved me a good
deal of money. For the multi-factor logic questions, I generally used a
spreadsheet and a word document simultaneously. I also relied heavily on my
memory, which is a technique discouraged by all of the prep books. However,
prep books are neither written by nor for blind individuals.

I received a 170 on my LSAT. I imagine that, had I used a prep course, I
probably would have scored a few points higher, but this was good enough for
my purposes.

 

Finally, you may find that people on this list do not respond as quickly
because much of the subscription base consists of practicioners, many of
whom went to law school in completely different technological and
accessibility times. Furthermore, I try with all my power to never think
about the LSAT now that it's over. If you'd like to email me off list, my
email is  <mailto:chris.stewart at uky.edu> chris.stewart at uky.edu, and I'm
happy to answer any questions. I've been fortunate to have a blind 3L answer
many of my questions, and I would now like to pass that along.

 

Best,

Chris

 

 

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>    1. Tackling logic games with Excel (Michael Nowicki)

>    2. Re: Tackling logic games with Excel (Aaron Cannon)

>    3. Re: Tackling logic games with Excel (Aimee Harwood)

>    4. Re: New Member Intro and Questions (Sy Hoekstra)

>    5. Re: Tackling logic games with Excel (Al Elia)

>    6. Re: New Member Intro and Questions (Aimee Harwood)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:14:02 -0500

> From: Michael Nowicki < <mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com>
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Tackling logic games with Excel

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> Dear list members,

> 

> 

> 

> I hope this message finds you all well.  I'm sure many of you have 

> taken the LSAT, and if you have done so recently, you probably 

> remember that it contains one scored logic games section consisting of 

> four games in which the testtaker must sequence, match, distribute, 

> and/or select entities.

> This section is more challenging than other parts of the test because 

> the key to mastering it lies in drawing a sketch that effectively 

> organizes the players in the game.  Fortunately, LSAC will allow me to 

> use Excel for this task, which, in my opinion, is the best strategy for
attacking games.

> While

> working with specific game types, however, I have encountered a major 

> obstacle that I have not been able to overcome thus far.

> 

> 

> 

> Specifically, I am having trouble setting up hybrid games:  games 

> which include multiple actions.  For example, one type of game asks 

> you to first distribute entities into groups and then to sequence the 

> elements in each group in some way.  The problem that I am facing is 

> that I am unable to incorporate multiple actions into a single sketch, 

> a task sighted people can easily perform, because of the limitations 

> of Excel spreadsheets.

> Consequently, I have tried to use separate sketches for each action, 

> but this approach is too time-consuming for a tightly-timed 

> standardized test like the LSAT, even with extended time.  Upon 

> realizing this, I reached out to the Kaplan instructor teaching the 

> class in which I am enrolled, but he doesn't have any ideas.  

> Likewise, Kaplan's ADA administrator, the person providing 

> accommodations to Kaplan students, has no suggestions as to how I 

> could adapt the Kaplan method to Excel because as far as he knows, no 

> other Kaplan student was ever granted the use of Excel by LSAC; 

> indeed, this is a very recent phenomenon.  Finally, I contacted local
blindness organizations for assistance, but none of them was able to help.

> 

> 

> 

> That being said, I would be extremely greatful if anyone on this list 

> would be willing to help me overcome this major obstacle.  I know that 

> there are blind people who received high LSAT scores with the help of 

> Excel, so if any of you are on this list, please contact me either on 

> or off list.  Also, if any of you happen to know someone who falls 

> into this category, please put me in touch with that person as soon as 

> possible.  Thank you in advance for your help.

> 

> 

> 

> Best Regards,

> 

> 

> 

> Michal Nowicki

> 

> 

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:59:12 -0500

> From: Aaron Cannon < <mailto:cannona at fireantproductions.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Tackling logic games with Excel

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> Could you give an example of a question which is of the type you are 

> having difficulty with?  That might enable some folks on the list to 

> explain how they would solve it, which then might give you some ideas 

> which you can generalize.

> 

> Aaron

> 

> On 4/25/14, Michael Nowicki < <mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com>
mnowicki4 at icloud.com> wrote:

>> Dear list members,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I hope this message finds you all well.  I'm sure many of you have 

>> taken the LSAT, and if you have done so recently, you probably 

>> remember that it contains one scored logic games section consisting 

>> of four games in which the testtaker must sequence, match, 

>> distribute, and/or select entities.

>> This section is more challenging than other parts of the test because 

>> the key to mastering it lies in drawing a sketch that effectively 

>> organizes the players in the game.  Fortunately, LSAC will allow me 

>> to use Excel for this task, which, in my opinion, is the best 

>> strategy for attacking games.

>> While

>> working with specific game types, however, I have encountered a major 

>> obstacle that I have not been able to overcome thus far.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Specifically, I am having trouble setting up hybrid games:  games 

>> which include multiple actions.  For example, one type of game asks 

>> you to first distribute entities into groups and then to sequence the 

>> elements in each group in some way.  The problem that I am facing is 

>> that I am unable to incorporate multiple actions into a single 

>> sketch, a task sighted people can easily perform, because of the 

>> limitations of Excel spreadsheets.

>> Consequently, I have tried to use separate sketches for each action, 

>> but this approach is too time-consuming for a tightly-timed 

>> standardized test like the LSAT, even with extended time.  Upon 

>> realizing this, I reached out to the Kaplan instructor teaching the 

>> class in which I am enrolled, but he doesn't have any ideas.  

>> Likewise, Kaplan's ADA administrator, the person providing 

>> accommodations to Kaplan students, has no suggestions as to how I 

>> could adapt the Kaplan method to Excel because as far as he knows, no 

>> other Kaplan student was ever granted the use of Excel by LSAC; 

>> indeed, this is a very recent phenomenon.  Finally, I contacted local 

>> blindness organizations for assistance, but none of them was able to 

>> help.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> That being said, I would be extremely greatful if anyone on this list 

>> would be willing to help me overcome this major obstacle.  I know 

>> that there are blind people who received high LSAT scores with the 

>> help of Excel, so if any of you are on this list, please contact me 

>> either on or off list.  Also, if any of you happen to know someone 

>> who falls into this category, please put me in touch with that person 

>> as soon as possible.  Thank you in advance for your help.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Best Regards,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Michal Nowicki

>> 

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> 

> 

> 

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> Message: 3

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:05:06 -0400

> From: Aimee Harwood < <mailto:awildheir at gmail.com> awildheir at gmail.com>

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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Tackling logic games with Excel

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> I hope you, actually we because I need these answers as well, get some 

> answers. However, I have posed questions to the group as well as 

> expressed interest in the answers posed by a couple other new people 

> and have not yet seen those questions answered.  Hopefully that will 

> change. I would like to think that of all people, those who are blind 

> or visually impaired and have already been down this road would be the 

> ones we could hope to get answers from. If not answers, at least 

> relate to the issues we are having. They are the best candidates to be our
mentors of some sort.

> 

> I would also like to ask you Michael for the info regarding Kaplan's 

> LSAT course.

> 

> Aimee

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Michael Nowicki <
<mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com> mnowicki4 at icloud.com>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Dear list members,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I hope this message finds you all well.  I'm sure many of you have 

>> taken the LSAT, and if you have done so recently, you probably 

>> remember that it contains one scored logic games section consisting 

>> of four games in which the testtaker must sequence, match, 

>> distribute, and/or select entities.

>> This section is more challenging than other parts of the test because 

>> the key to mastering it lies in drawing a sketch that effectively 

>> organizes the players in the game.  Fortunately, LSAC will allow me 

>> to use Excel for this task, which, in my opinion, is the best 

>> strategy for attacking games.

>> While

>> working with specific game types, however, I have encountered a major 

>> obstacle that I have not been able to overcome thus far.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Specifically, I am having trouble setting up hybrid games:  games 

>> which include multiple actions.  For example, one type of game asks 

>> you to first distribute entities into groups and then to sequence the 

>> elements in each group in some way.  The problem that I am facing is 

>> that I am unable to incorporate multiple actions into a single 

>> sketch, a task sighted people can easily perform, because of the 

>> limitations of Excel spreadsheets.

>> Consequently, I have tried to use separate sketches for each action, 

>> but this approach is too time-consuming for a tightly-timed 

>> standardized test like the LSAT, even with extended time.  Upon 

>> realizing this, I reached out to the Kaplan instructor teaching the 

>> class in which I am enrolled, but he doesn't have any ideas.  

>> Likewise, Kaplan's ADA administrator, the person providing 

>> accommodations to Kaplan students, has no suggestions as to how I 

>> could adapt the Kaplan method to Excel because as far as he knows, no 

>> other Kaplan student was ever granted the use of Excel by LSAC; 

>> indeed, this is a very recent phenomenon.  Finally, I contacted local 

>> blindness organizations for assistance, but none of them was able to 

>> help.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> That being said, I would be extremely greatful if anyone on this list 

>> would be willing to help me overcome this major obstacle.  I know 

>> that there are blind people who received high LSAT scores with the 

>> help of Excel, so if any of you are on this list, please contact me 

>> either on or off list.  Also, if any of you happen to know someone 

>> who falls into this category, please put me in touch with that person 

>> as soon as possible.  Thank you in advance for your help.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Best Regards,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Michal Nowicki

>> 

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> 

> 

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> Message: 4

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:17:08 -0400

> From: "Sy Hoekstra" < <mailto:sy.hoekstra at gmail.com>
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> Hi Amy,

> 

> I think the lack of response here is due to the fact that you ask a 

> number of large questions on which we could probably all write short 

> books. I have found though that the legal profession in general is 

> pretty good about accommodations, considering it is decently 

> well-aware of the legal obligations surrounding disability rights. I 

> have had no trouble in law school getting accommodations I need (I'm a 

> 3L), and the LSAT, MPRE, and bar exams are getting slowly more and 

> more comfortable for visually impaired people to get through. Though 

> the accommodations process for the bar exam can be a nightmare 

> depending on the state you're in. I do all of my note taking, 

> outlining, and reading using JAWS, and I find that legal casebooks are 

> quite easy to get ahold of in electronic, accessible formats.

> 

> If you have any things you are particularly worried about, I would 

> certainly be happy to answer questions.

> 

> Best regards,

> Sy

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: blindlaw [ <mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>
mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee 

> Harwood

> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:52 PM

> To:  <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org> blindlaw at nfbnet.org

> Subject: [blindlaw] New Member Intro and Questions

> 

> Hello everyone. I hope this email finds you all well.  My name is 

> Aimee. I am seriously considering law school. I have read about the 

> issues with the LSAT and would like to see if anyone has any 

> suggestions and or recommendations to make that process more 

> successful. I haven't narrowed down what schools I would be most 

> interested in attending. I would like to see if there are schools that 

> are more blind friendly than others. Could some of you please tell me 

> about your experiences at the schools you attended? How difficult was 

> it to juggle the 16 hour semesters and what methods did you use to 

> accomplish all of the reading, assignments, outlining, and or whatever
methods used to keep everything straight.

> Sighted

> people use highlighters, underlining, and many other visual aids to 

> manage the massive amount of information covered in law school. How 

> will a blind person manage all of this information so that when it 

> comes exam time, I won't be studying unnecessary information. I 

> totally understand that this will be totally different than undergrad 

> and really would like some insight on how we manage it all.

> 

> Everyone says I will make a great lawyer. It is really great to have 

> the genuine support from those who know me well enough to make a 

> statement regarding my suitability for the profession. I look forward 

> to learning everything and anything related to being a lawyer. It is 

> something I have been interested in doing sins I was a teenager. I 

> just didn't have the connection to other blind individuals or 

> organizations and didn't think Blind people could be lawyers. I wasn't 

> introduced to JAWS and computers until long after high school. Here is 

> a funny joke. I thought I would be able to be a horse trainer more 

> than I would be able to be a lawyer. I suppose that was because I had 

> been working with or at least riding horses since I was a young girl.I 

> am going into law school as a non-traditional student. I am making a 

> later in life career change. Unfortunately I am not able to do the 

> horse life any more. The president of my chapter said to me one 

> evening, "Why don't you go to law school?" I had already been thinking
about it, but that was the start of this new chapter.

> 

> Again, I really look forward to this journey and hearing the good, 

> bad, and the ugly that you all have to share with me.

> 

> 

> Aimee

> Sent from my iPad

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> Message: 5

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:43:22 -0400

> From: Al Elia < <mailto:al.elia at aol.com> al.elia at aol.com>

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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Tackling logic games with Excel

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> Thank you very much!

> 

> Best,

> 

> Al, who is brusquer than usual because he's typing on an iPhone.

> 

>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Aaron Cannon 

>> < <mailto:cannona at fireantproductions.com> cannona at fireantproductions.com>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Could you give an example of a question which is of the type you are 

>> having difficulty with?  That might enable some folks on the list to 

>> explain how they would solve it, which then might give you some ideas 

>> which you can generalize.

>> 

>> Aaron

>> 

>>> On 4/25/14, Michael Nowicki < <mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com>
mnowicki4 at icloud.com> wrote:

>>> Dear list members,

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I hope this message finds you all well.  I'm sure many of you have 

>>> taken the LSAT, and if you have done so recently, you probably 

>>> remember that it contains one scored logic games section consisting 

>>> of four games in which the testtaker must sequence, match, 

>>> distribute, and/or select entities.

>>> This section is more challenging than other parts of the test 

>>> because the key to mastering it lies in drawing a sketch that 

>>> effectively organizes the players in the game.  Fortunately, LSAC 

>>> will allow me to use Excel for this task, which, in my opinion, is 

>>> the best strategy for attacking games.

>>> While

>>> working with specific game types, however, I have encountered a 

>>> major obstacle that I have not been able to overcome thus far.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Specifically, I am having trouble setting up hybrid games:  games 

>>> which include multiple actions.  For example, one type of game asks 

>>> you to first distribute entities into groups and then to sequence 

>>> the elements in each group in some way.  The problem that I am 

>>> facing is that I am unable to incorporate multiple actions into a 

>>> single sketch, a task sighted people can easily perform, because of 

>>> the limitations of Excel spreadsheets.

>>> Consequently, I have tried to use separate sketches for each action, 

>>> but this approach is too time-consuming for a tightly-timed 

>>> standardized test like the LSAT, even with extended time.  Upon 

>>> realizing this, I reached out to the Kaplan instructor teaching the 

>>> class in which I am enrolled, but he doesn't have any ideas.  

>>> Likewise, Kaplan's ADA administrator, the person providing 

>>> accommodations to Kaplan students, has no suggestions as to how I 

>>> could adapt the Kaplan method to Excel because as far as he knows, 

>>> no other Kaplan student was ever granted the use of Excel by LSAC; 

>>> indeed, this is a very recent phenomenon.  Finally, I contacted 

>>> local blindness organizations for assistance, but none of them was 

>>> able to help.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> That being said, I would be extremely greatful if anyone on this 

>>> list would be willing to help me overcome this major obstacle.  I 

>>> know that there are blind people who received high LSAT scores with 

>>> the help of Excel, so if any of you are on this list, please contact 

>>> me either on or off list.  Also, if any of you happen to know 

>>> someone who falls into this category, please put me in touch with 

>>> that person as soon as possible.  Thank you in advance for your 

>>> help.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Best Regards,

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Michal Nowicki

>>> 

>>> _______________________________________________

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>>> antproductions.com

>>> 

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> Message: 6

> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:58:26 -0400

> From: Aimee Harwood < <mailto:awildheir at gmail.com> awildheir at gmail.com>

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> Thank you very much Sy.

> 

> I really have my heart set on Penn State. I spoke to someone there 

> yesterday who answered a lot of my questions and clarified some things 

> for me especially about how they view the extra time accommodation.

> 

> Do you find it difficult or at least a struggle to do everything that 

> needs to be done say read all the material, do your outlines, and 

> whatever other assignments in a day's time? Given the nature of visual 

> impairments and the extra time it takes us to do the same thing as a 

> sighted person does, what will it be like? I've been out of college 

> for 11 years. I just want to hear what it is like for a visually 

> impaired person to be successful in law school. What have you found to be
the most effective and efficient methods?

> 

> Think I'll stop there for now. I am known for asking deep and somewhat 

> obscure questions. :-)

> 

> Aimee

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:17 PM, "Sy Hoekstra" <
<mailto:sy.hoekstra at gmail.com> sy.hoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi Amy,

>> 

>> I think the lack of response here is due to the fact that you ask a 

>> number of large questions on which we could probably all write short 

>> books. I have found though that the legal profession in general is 

>> pretty good about accommodations, considering it is decently 

>> well-aware of the legal obligations surrounding disability rights. I 

>> have had no trouble in law school getting accommodations I need (I'm 

>> a 3L), and the LSAT, MPRE, and bar exams are getting slowly more and 

>> more comfortable for visually impaired people to get through. Though 

>> the accommodations process for the bar exam can be a nightmare 

>> depending on the state you're in. I do all of my note taking, 

>> outlining, and reading using JAWS, and I find that legal casebooks 

>> are quite easy to get ahold of in electronic, accessible formats.

>> 

>> If you have any things you are particularly worried about, I would 

>> certainly be happy to answer questions.

>> 

>> Best regards,

>> Sy

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: blindlaw [ <mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>
mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 

>> Aimee Harwood

>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:52 PM

>> To:  <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org> blindlaw at nfbnet.org

>> Subject: [blindlaw] New Member Intro and Questions

>> 

>> Hello everyone. I hope this email finds you all well.  My name is Aimee.

>> I

>> am seriously considering law school. I have read about the issues 

>> with the LSAT and would like to see if anyone has any suggestions and 

>> or recommendations to make that process more successful. I haven't 

>> narrowed down what schools I would be most interested in attending. I 

>> would like to see if there are schools that are more blind friendly 

>> than others. Could some of you please tell me about your experiences 

>> at the schools you attended? How difficult was it to juggle the 16 

>> hour semesters and what methods did you use to accomplish all of the 

>> reading, assignments, outlining, and or whatever methods used to keep 

>> everything straight.

>> Sighted

>> people use highlighters, underlining, and many other visual aids to 

>> manage the massive amount of information covered in law school. How 

>> will a blind person manage all of this information so that when it 

>> comes exam time, I won't be studying unnecessary information. I 

>> totally understand that this will be totally different than undergrad 

>> and really would like some insight on how we manage it all.

>> 

>> Everyone says I will make a great lawyer. It is really great to have 

>> the genuine support from those who know me well enough to make a 

>> statement regarding my suitability for the profession. I look forward 

>> to learning everything and anything related to being a lawyer. It is 

>> something I have been interested in doing sins I was a teenager. I 

>> just didn't have the connection to other blind individuals or 

>> organizations and didn't think Blind people could be lawyers. I 

>> wasn't introduced to JAWS and computers until long after high school. 

>> Here is a funny joke. I thought I would be able to be a horse trainer 

>> more than I would be able to be a lawyer. I suppose that was because 

>> I had been working with or at least riding horses since I was a young 

>> girl.I am going into law school as a non-traditional student. I am 

>> making a later in life career change. Unfortunately I am not able to 

>> do the horse life any more. The president of my chapter said to me 

>> one evening, "Why don't you go to law school?" I had already been 

>> thinking about it, but that was the start of this new chapter.

>> 

>> Again, I really look forward to this journey and hearing the good, 

>> bad, and the ugly that you all have to share with me.

>> 

>> 

>> Aimee

>> Sent from my iPad

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