[blindlaw] requiring a Driver's License as a pre-requisite to employment as an attorney

Tue Jun 16 19:09:56 UTC 2015

Exactly.  My understanding is that they are not even valid as a form of identification for E-verify on job applications, nor are they sufficient identification at the polls, and soon, not at the airport.  Again, there is absolutely no rational need for this requirement, as the four of us already employed by the County as attorneys who don't drive (3 blind, one paralyzed) clearly prove.  This was not on my application when I started, and at the time, I did drive.

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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick via blindlaw
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] requiring a Driver's License as a pre-requisite to employment as an attorney

Michal,

The whole border state thing is relevant because as a protest against the federal government the state refuses to add biometric requirements required by federal law so their licenses are not useful for anything other than driving within the borders of Arizona.

Paul

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> On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Michal Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What does "border state status" have to do with the driver's license 
> requirement?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Beth 
> Taurasi via blindlaw
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:53 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Beth Taurasi
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] requiring a Driver's License as a 
> pre-requisite to employment as an attorney
> 
> I may not be an attorney or law professional, but it's not just the 
> law that is requiring "driver's licenses" but I'm seeing even mundane 
> jobs requiring those.  I wanted to move to Arizona, but I"m not 
> surprised by what they're doing because of the border state status, right there besides Mexico.
> Beth
> 
>> On 6/16/2015 9:21 AM, Susan Kelly via blindlaw wrote:
>> I think the fact that the job description goes on to state that the
> previous 39 months of MVD records will be accessed and reviewed by the 
> hiring authority makes it plain that the reference to driver's license 
> goes beyond a mere picture i.d.  Moreover, Arizona has identification 
> cards which are also issued by MVD, but which plainly are NOT driver's 
> licenses, nor are they referred to as such.  Finally, because our 
> state chose not to comply with certain national trends on those 
> licenses and identifications, we will all soon need passports or other 
> forms of i.d. to board airplanes, making them relatively useless as 
> mere forms of identification.  Additionally, other positions are 
> listed which do NOT require driver's licenses as a pre-requisite to application.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Michal Nowicki via blindlaw
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:54 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] requiring a Driver's License as a 
>> pre-requisite to employment as an attorney
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Perhaps, as Yasmin suggested, the state of Arizona uses the term 
>> "driver's
> license" to refer to all forms of picture identification.  After all, 
> unlike in other countries, where all citizens must obtain a national 
> ID card, a driver's license functions as a valid form of 
> identification in the United States, and most Americans have a 
> driver's license.  While this does not justify Arizona's 
> discriminatory language, there is at least a legitimate possibility 
> that the state does not mean to weed blind attorneys out of public 
> legal posts through this requirement.  If that is the case, maybe it 
> will not be a barrier to employment, even if the government is unwilling to amend the language.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via blindlaw
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:25 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] requiring a Driver's License as a 
>> pre-requisite to employment as an attorney
>> 
>> Hello Susie:
>> 
>> Government is the most notorious organ ever created by humans that 
>> never
> thinks before it speaks!  Government takes delight in letting out a 
> lot of hot hair until its courts tell it to quit being silly.  I 
> personally don't understand or know how the posession of a driver's 
> license should translate to mean that I'll do a good job at work, but again, it's government!
>> 
>> Yes, they'll call me subversive for daring to express my views!  So 
>> be it,
> I guess.
>> 
>> Notice how government has managed to consistently exempt itself from 
>> the
> general provisions of the ADA?  If this is NOT THE CASE, why are there 
> so many government websites here in the state of Colorado that ARE 
> ABSOLUTELY NOT accessible and finding a person to talk to about these 
> sites is NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE?
>> 
>> As I write this, I am preparing to CHALLENGE the City & County of 
>> Denver
> in court for failing to make it ONLINE BUSINESS, OCCUPATIONAL 
> PRIVILEGE and SALES TAX licenses filing apps inaccessible.  Same goes 
> for the state of Colorado's Revenue Online website.
>> 
>> It's always easy to take on small businesses and other private 
>> entities
> for failing to meet ADA provisions, but government always gets unscathe!
>> Wonderful, two wrongs truly don't make a right, and government can
> continue committing both wrongs!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Olusegun
>> Denver, Colorado
>> 
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