[Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility ofacollege math course

Mon Nov 21 20:52:51 UTC 2011

Sounds like 8 is a good format.

Amanda
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility 
ofacollege math course

> Hello,
> 1 and 2 VoiceOver does not see as tables, it gives a noise though between 
> each item to indicate a new line. 3 is recognised as a table.
>
> 4 and 5 are not seen in a table, reading order is U, V, W, X0, X1, X2, Z1, 
> Z2, z3. VoiceOver gives noises to indicate each element is a different 
> line. 6 is in a table, however the table only has two rows and one column, 
> with the word matrix in the top row and the same as 4 and 5 in the bottom 
> row.
>
> 7 has the reading order U, X0, Z1, V, X1, Z2, W, X2, Z3, with new line 
> noises between Z1 and V, Z2 and W.
>
> 8 is similar to 7, however it is in a table with 4 rows (top one being the 
> word matrix) with the bit where a new line noise would be made is now 
> starting a new row.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 21 Nov 2011, at 19:02, Richard Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I have attached a zip file containing a short xhtml file containing 
>> several
>> different table formats that could be used to house matrices.
>>
>> Can you take a look and see which, if any of these formats are recognized
>> as tables by VoiceOver. Also if someone could take a look and see if any 
>> of
>> them are incompatible with Jaws, NVDA, or any other popular screen reader
>> that would also be helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dick Baldwin
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Michael Whapples 
>> <mwhapples at aim.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I encounter similar issues to Amanda when viewing it on the Mac with
>>> VoiceOver. VoiceOver fails to see any of the matrices as tables and for
>>> each element it makes a noise indicating moving to another line.
>>>
>>> As a slight hint for what might be going on, the tables used for the
>>> listings of code samples work fine and are seen as tables by VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> Michael Whapples
>>> On 21 Nov 2011, at 14:35, Richard Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>>> The values are correct. In print, the three matrices appear 
>>>> side-by-side
>>>> instead of being strung out as a single column matrix containing nine
>>>> elements.
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone like to suggest a way to make that format apparent to
>>> someone
>>>> examining the three matrices using a screen reader?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dick Baldwin
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Amanda Lacy <lacy925 at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In Math1006, you wrote:
>>>>> This page in Kjell's tutorial contains the following structure
>>> containing
>>>>> three column matrices:
>>>>> u
>>>>> v
>>>>> w
>>>>> x0
>>>>> x1
>>>>> x2
>>>>> z1
>>>>> z2
>>>>> z3
>>>>>
>>>>> At least that's how it looks to me. Is it right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Baldwin" <
>>>>> baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>
>>>>> To: "BlindMath Mailing List" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility 
>>>>> of
>>>>> acollege math course
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in the process of developing accessible courseware for the
>>> following
>>>>>> course that I will be teaching in the Spring 2012 semester at Austin
>>>>>> Community College, Austin, TX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GAME 2302 - Mathematical Applications for Game Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description: Presents applications of mathematics and science in game
>>> and
>>>>>> simulation programming. Includes the utilization of matrix and vector
>>>>>> operations, kinematics, and Newtonian principles in games and
>>> simulations.
>>>>>> Also covers code optimization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have completed the first draft of the first few modules and have
>>>>>> attached
>>>>>> a zip file containing that material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you would like to review that material and make recommendations 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> improved accessibility, I would like to hear those suggestions. I 
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> promise that I will implement all recommendations, but I will 
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> consider them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unzip the material from the attached zip file into an empty folder 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> the index file named Math0100.htm in your browser. Follow the links 
>>>>>> in
>>> the
>>>>>> index to the other modules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dick Baldwin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Austin Community College
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