[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 62, Issue 8
Vincent Martin
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Sun Sep 11 18:13:00 UTC 2011
I have been able to get, in some situations, similar responses with SPSS
version 18 as Faiz has, but it does not to be consistent. NVDA did work
better, but each of them leaves a lot to be desired. I am currently working
on an automated way of utilizing Excel with SPSS in order to import data,
use syntax commands to do the c calculations, and they have them
automatically exported to Excel. Since the ability to create charts and
graphs is better than SPSS does anyway, it might even "look" better. My
project group started to discuss how we want to do this last week, but don't
hold your breath.
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1. SPSS accessibility (Tim in 't Veld)
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Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:16:27 +0200
From: "Tim in 't Veld" <tim at dvlop.nl>
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Subject: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
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Hi all,
In a course I am required to use SPSS and it is being claimed in the
SPSS documentation that it was tested with Jaws.
Did anyone ever get this to work and if so, what was your exact
configuration?
I tried SPSS 19 or 16 on 2 Windows 7 x64 and a Windows XP configuration
with Jaws 12. On Windows XP I also tried Jaws 9 but nothing works (no
speech at all). I added the spssPath\jre\bin to the path variable and
copied accessibility.properties from the cd to spssPath\jre\lib as the
documentation described.
I have seen more faillure stories on the internet so SPSS accessibility
looks like a big time-wasting lie rather than a reality so far, very
sad. I know that R works much better so if nobody can explain me what to
do I'll just check with the professor if I can use R in the assignment
although this is likely to make collaboration in the group assignment a
bit more challenging.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:06:50 +0500
From: "Faiz Rasool" <faiz7r at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
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Tim,
I have had limited success with using Jaws and SPSS 18. I have been able to
use menus in the data editor window and have been able to transfer variables
into different variable boxes e.g. row variable and column variable. The
output window is completely unacessible and you have to export the output.
I followed the steps in the documentation and it work. I will suggest two
things. First go back and varify that there's no problem with the defining
of path variable e.g. is ; present after the line
c:\ProgramFiles\PASWStatistics18\the path to the folder in this directory;
Also try NVDA with SPSS. I have found that Jaws tends to be bit slower
with SPSS and NVDA does not have this problem.
Also i assume that you installed the java accessibility bridge.
Hope this helps.
R is certainly a very good option, but I have very little knowledge of the
program. But fortunately there are members on this list who can guide you of
how to get started with r.
Regards,
Faiz.
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Subject: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
Hi all,
In a course I am required to use SPSS and it is being claimed in the
SPSS documentation that it was tested with Jaws.
Did anyone ever get this to work and if so, what was your exact
configuration?
I tried SPSS 19 or 16 on 2 Windows 7 x64 and a Windows XP configuration
with Jaws 12. On Windows XP I also tried Jaws 9 but nothing works (no
speech at all). I added the spssPath\jre\bin to the path variable and
copied accessibility.properties from the cd to spssPath\jre\lib as the
documentation described.
I have seen more faillure stories on the internet so SPSS accessibility
looks like a big time-wasting lie rather than a reality so far, very
sad. I know that R works much better so if nobody can explain me what to
do I'll just check with the professor if I can use R in the assignment
although this is likely to make collaboration in the group assignment a
bit more challenging.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 04:28:42 -0700
From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
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Hello Tim:
It is my understanding that the versions of SPSS before the change to
Java can be used. I haven't tried this personally though.
Regards,
Robert
Robert Jaquiss
National Federation of the Blind
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Subject: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
Hi all,
In a course I am required to use SPSS and it is being claimed in the
SPSS documentation that it was tested with Jaws.
Did anyone ever get this to work and if so, what was your exact
configuration?
I tried SPSS 19 or 16 on 2 Windows 7 x64 and a Windows XP configuration
with Jaws 12. On Windows XP I also tried Jaws 9 but nothing works (no
speech at all). I added the spssPath\jre\bin to the path variable and
copied accessibility.properties from the cd to spssPath\jre\lib as the
documentation described.
I have seen more faillure stories on the internet so SPSS accessibility
looks like a big time-wasting lie rather than a reality so far, very
sad. I know that R works much better so if nobody can explain me what to
do I'll just check with the professor if I can use R in the assignment
although this is likely to make collaboration in the group assignment a
bit more challenging.
Tim
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