[Blindmath] Version 0.0.6 of SVGDraw01 is now available for download

Wed Sep 14 01:24:21 UTC 2011

Thank you sir Richard Baldwin for sharing this software.

On 9/11/11, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com> wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> Thanks for the positive feedback. Before getting into your specific
> questions, let me give you an update as to where the development stands
> tonight.
>
> Since publishing Version 0.0.6 of SVGDraw01, I have added the following
> features:
>
> Ability to save, and then open a drawing file later as an alternative to
> having to start from scratch each time.
> Ability to review and delete shapes that are no longer needed in the
> drawing.
> Ability to rotate shapes.
> Ability to translate shapes.
> A variety of operational features aimed at accessibility and ease of use.
>
> Very soon, I will have added the ability to scale shapes. I may decide to
> call that version 0.0.7 and publish it for others to use and evaluate.
>
> Now I will embed my responses to your comments in your message below
> identified by rgb] in the left margin.
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Professor Baldwin,
>>
>> I would like to express my huge thanks, appreciation, and respect for
>> you developing such an amazing tool. It's been incredible and amazing
>> all the interaction, attention to detail, want for clarification,
>> encouraging and having user feedback drive future of SVGDraw.
>>
>> Based on all interactions and updates to this point, which I have
>> traced and read all messages surrounding this topic on this list; it
>> seems that it only works on Windows x86 (32-bit).
>
>
> rgb] You are correct. The current version works only on Windows 32-bit. This
> is a choice that I have made during development so as to minimize the
> maintenance effort during development. At some point, I will also publish a
> version that will work on Windows 64-bit. Assuming that there are 64-bit
> compatible versions of JDOM and SWT available, I don't anticipate any
> technical problems with that other than the routine issues of getting the
> correct versions of the 64-bit software pulled together.
>
>
>> Based on this, it
>> looks like, it is not possible for me, who has a MacBook Pro 13" with
>> OS X Lion and a Dell XPS M1330 with Windows 7 x64 (64-bit) to take
>> SVGDraw for a spin, testing, and making it work for me.
>>
>
> rgb] If you have access to a machine with Windows 7, you can download and
> install 32-bit Java on that  machine in addition to 64-bit Java and run
> SVGDraw under the 32-bit version.
>
>>
>> In the case of Mac, I did not see any discussion of SVGDraw working in
>> that environment, but it was suggested to Pranav to run SVGDraw  in a
>> 32-bit JVM on Windows 7 64-bit, which based on Pranav's  initial test
>> on Sep 5 works. However, I have not seen any one else who has Windows
>> 7 x64 report good, bad, or anything on SVGDraw.
>>
>
> rgb] You are correct. Pranav reported success in running SVGDraw01 using a
> 32-bit jvm on Windows 7.
>
> rgb] I don't have access to or experience with a Mac of any variety. The
> same is true for Linux. Therefore, it will probably be a long time before a
> Mac version or a Linux version of SVGDraw will be available. I will have to
> enlist the efforts of a Mac programmer and a Linux programmer to accomplish
> that, and I haven't had any conversations along those lines yet.
>
>>
>> Is running SVGDraw in a 32-bit JVM on Windows 7 64-bit the recommended
>> route or will there be a x64 version later?
>>
>
> rgb] As mentioned above, there will be a 64-bit version later provided JDOM
> and SVG are both 64-bit compatible.
>
>>
>> From what I have gathered, the two most common ways of viewing the
>> output are using vOICe (Amanda ) and emboss using Tiger (Ben.
>>
>
> rgb] There are other alternatives that fall between those two in terms of
> quality. For example, I know of no reason not to print the graphs on
> so-called "swell paper" and develop the tactile aspect of the drawing using
> an approved heater.
>
>>
>> While, i do understand the the thinking up until this point, design,
>> and development has been focused on students creating their own
>> accessible SVG and it being used to output accessible SVG aurally or
>> tactilley.
>>
>> I really think that this should be the standard for creating
>> accessible SVG and that it should be part of production, where
>> publishers and authors are using it in work-flow, such as Adobe
>> InDesign  and other tools. Of course, there would have to be
>> guidelines on how to make accessible SVG for audio and tactile, but
>> the technology piece has been solved. One of the more recent features
>> of being able to import really opens the door to being able to
>> exchange accessibel SVG, which has amazing potential, including having
>> user-generated repository, and can be used until it can be integrated
>> in publishing and authoring production process.
>>
>
> I agree with that completely. For example, it should become possible to
> exchange SVG files for a variety of purposes, including for the purpose of
> providing accessible technical diagrams for STEM textbooks.
>
>>
>> This would solve one of the largest issues in STEM accessibility,
>> which is  a agreed upon standard, which is robust, versatile, and
>> reliable in/output accessible SVG.
>>
>
> Once again, thanks for the feedback. Hopefully you can install 32-bit Java
> on your Win 7 machine and take SVGDraw for a spin.
>
> Dick Baldwin
>
>>
>> Kevin
>> On 9/10/11, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com> wrote:
>> > Version 0.0.6  of my drawing program for blind students is posted at :
>> > http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/SWT-SVG/SVGDraw01.zip
>> >
>> > This version contains two major new features:
>> >
>> > 1. You can now open an existing drawing file previously produced by
>> > SVGDraw01 as an alternative to starting from scratch and creating a new
>> > drawing.
>> >
>> > 2. You can review and delete shapes from the current drawing.
>> >
>> > The procedure for getting started using the program is as follows:
>> >
>> > After downloading the zip file, extract the following three files into
>> the
>> > same folder.
>> > _ReadMeFirst.txt
>> > Instructions.htm
>> > SVGDraw01.jar
>> >
>> > You must have the 32-bit Windows version of the Java JRE installed on
>> your
>> > computer to run this program.
>> >
>> > The file named SVGDraw01.jar is an executable jar file. You can run it
>> the
>> > same way that you run other programs.
>> >
>> > If all else fails, open a command window in the folder containing the
>> > jar
>> > file and enter the following command at the prompt:
>> >
>> > java -jar SVGdraw01.jar
>> >
>> > When the program starts, you will land in a Combo List Box with the
>> > following selection showing:
>> > "User instructions"
>> >
>> > Press the enter key and tab down to the button labeled:
>> > "Press this button to open instructions in a browser"
>> >
>> > When you press the button, you should land in a browser window
>> > containing
>> an
>> > html document with detailed usage instructions for the program.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, you can simply open the file named Instructions.htm in
>> your
>> > browser and read it without running the program.
>> >
>> > As usual, feedback will be appreciated.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
>> > Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
>> > http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>> >
>> > Professor of Computer Information Technology
>> > Austin Community College
>> > (512) 223-4758
>> > mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
>> > http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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>
>
> --
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> Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
> http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>
> Professor of Computer Information Technology
> Austin Community College
> (512) 223-4758
> mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
> http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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