[Blindmath] Version 0.0.6 of SVGDraw01 is now available for download

Wed Sep 14 02:18:21 UTC 2011

You are most welcome. Stay tuned. There is much more to come.

Dick Baldwin

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Allan Mesoga <allan.mesoga at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank you sir Richard Baldwin for sharing this software.
>
> On 9/11/11, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com> wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> > Thanks for the positive feedback. Before getting into your specific
> > questions, let me give you an update as to where the development stands
> > tonight.
> >
> > Since publishing Version 0.0.6 of SVGDraw01, I have added the following
> > features:
> >
> > Ability to save, and then open a drawing file later as an alternative to
> > having to start from scratch each time.
> > Ability to review and delete shapes that are no longer needed in the
> > drawing.
> > Ability to rotate shapes.
> > Ability to translate shapes.
> > A variety of operational features aimed at accessibility and ease of use.
> >
> > Very soon, I will have added the ability to scale shapes. I may decide to
> > call that version 0.0.7 and publish it for others to use and evaluate.
> >
> > Now I will embed my responses to your comments in your message below
> > identified by rgb] in the left margin.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Professor Baldwin,
> >>
> >> I would like to express my huge thanks, appreciation, and respect for
> >> you developing such an amazing tool. It's been incredible and amazing
> >> all the interaction, attention to detail, want for clarification,
> >> encouraging and having user feedback drive future of SVGDraw.
> >>
> >> Based on all interactions and updates to this point, which I have
> >> traced and read all messages surrounding this topic on this list; it
> >> seems that it only works on Windows x86 (32-bit).
> >
> >
> > rgb] You are correct. The current version works only on Windows 32-bit.
> This
> > is a choice that I have made during development so as to minimize the
> > maintenance effort during development. At some point, I will also publish
> a
> > version that will work on Windows 64-bit. Assuming that there are 64-bit
> > compatible versions of JDOM and SWT available, I don't anticipate any
> > technical problems with that other than the routine issues of getting the
> > correct versions of the 64-bit software pulled together.
> >
> >
> >> Based on this, it
> >> looks like, it is not possible for me, who has a MacBook Pro 13" with
> >> OS X Lion and a Dell XPS M1330 with Windows 7 x64 (64-bit) to take
> >> SVGDraw for a spin, testing, and making it work for me.
> >>
> >
> > rgb] If you have access to a machine with Windows 7, you can download and
> > install 32-bit Java on that  machine in addition to 64-bit Java and run
> > SVGDraw under the 32-bit version.
> >
> >>
> >> In the case of Mac, I did not see any discussion of SVGDraw working in
> >> that environment, but it was suggested to Pranav to run SVGDraw  in a
> >> 32-bit JVM on Windows 7 64-bit, which based on Pranav's  initial test
> >> on Sep 5 works. However, I have not seen any one else who has Windows
> >> 7 x64 report good, bad, or anything on SVGDraw.
> >>
> >
> > rgb] You are correct. Pranav reported success in running SVGDraw01 using
> a
> > 32-bit jvm on Windows 7.
> >
> > rgb] I don't have access to or experience with a Mac of any variety. The
> > same is true for Linux. Therefore, it will probably be a long time before
> a
> > Mac version or a Linux version of SVGDraw will be available. I will have
> to
> > enlist the efforts of a Mac programmer and a Linux programmer to
> accomplish
> > that, and I haven't had any conversations along those lines yet.
> >
> >>
> >> Is running SVGDraw in a 32-bit JVM on Windows 7 64-bit the recommended
> >> route or will there be a x64 version later?
> >>
> >
> > rgb] As mentioned above, there will be a 64-bit version later provided
> JDOM
> > and SVG are both 64-bit compatible.
> >
> >>
> >> From what I have gathered, the two most common ways of viewing the
> >> output are using vOICe (Amanda ) and emboss using Tiger (Ben.
> >>
> >
> > rgb] There are other alternatives that fall between those two in terms of
> > quality. For example, I know of no reason not to print the graphs on
> > so-called "swell paper" and develop the tactile aspect of the drawing
> using
> > an approved heater.
> >
> >>
> >> While, i do understand the the thinking up until this point, design,
> >> and development has been focused on students creating their own
> >> accessible SVG and it being used to output accessible SVG aurally or
> >> tactilley.
> >>
> >> I really think that this should be the standard for creating
> >> accessible SVG and that it should be part of production, where
> >> publishers and authors are using it in work-flow, such as Adobe
> >> InDesign  and other tools. Of course, there would have to be
> >> guidelines on how to make accessible SVG for audio and tactile, but
> >> the technology piece has been solved. One of the more recent features
> >> of being able to import really opens the door to being able to
> >> exchange accessibel SVG, which has amazing potential, including having
> >> user-generated repository, and can be used until it can be integrated
> >> in publishing and authoring production process.
> >>
> >
> > I agree with that completely. For example, it should become possible to
> > exchange SVG files for a variety of purposes, including for the purpose
> of
> > providing accessible technical diagrams for STEM textbooks.
> >
> >>
> >> This would solve one of the largest issues in STEM accessibility,
> >> which is  a agreed upon standard, which is robust, versatile, and
> >> reliable in/output accessible SVG.
> >>
> >
> > Once again, thanks for the feedback. Hopefully you can install 32-bit
> Java
> > on your Win 7 machine and take SVGDraw for a spin.
> >
> > Dick Baldwin
> >
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >> On 9/10/11, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com> wrote:
> >> > Version 0.0.6  of my drawing program for blind students is posted at :
> >> > http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/SWT-SVG/SVGDraw01.zip
> >> >
> >> > This version contains two major new features:
> >> >
> >> > 1. You can now open an existing drawing file previously produced by
> >> > SVGDraw01 as an alternative to starting from scratch and creating a
> new
> >> > drawing.
> >> >
> >> > 2. You can review and delete shapes from the current drawing.
> >> >
> >> > The procedure for getting started using the program is as follows:
> >> >
> >> > After downloading the zip file, extract the following three files into
> >> the
> >> > same folder.
> >> > _ReadMeFirst.txt
> >> > Instructions.htm
> >> > SVGDraw01.jar
> >> >
> >> > You must have the 32-bit Windows version of the Java JRE installed on
> >> your
> >> > computer to run this program.
> >> >
> >> > The file named SVGDraw01.jar is an executable jar file. You can run it
> >> the
> >> > same way that you run other programs.
> >> >
> >> > If all else fails, open a command window in the folder containing the
> >> > jar
> >> > file and enter the following command at the prompt:
> >> >
> >> > java -jar SVGdraw01.jar
> >> >
> >> > When the program starts, you will land in a Combo List Box with the
> >> > following selection showing:
> >> > "User instructions"
> >> >
> >> > Press the enter key and tab down to the button labeled:
> >> > "Press this button to open instructions in a browser"
> >> >
> >> > When you press the button, you should land in a browser window
> >> > containing
> >> an
> >> > html document with detailed usage instructions for the program.
> >> >
> >> > Alternatively, you can simply open the file named Instructions.htm in
> >> your
> >> > browser and read it without running the program.
> >> >
> >> > As usual, feedback will be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
> >> > Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
> >> > http://www.DickBaldwin.com
> >> >
> >> > Professor of Computer Information Technology
> >> > Austin Community College
> >> > (512) 223-4758
> >> > mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
> >> > http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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> > Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
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> >
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> > Austin Community College
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Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
http://www.DickBaldwin.com

Professor of Computer Information Technology
Austin Community College
(512) 223-4758
mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/