[Blindmath] Doing Calculus Exam

Sun Apr 15 04:03:33 UTC 2012

Dear Tim,
Thanks for your explanation,
I will talk to you on Skype soon.
(My skype Name is duongtuannam1992).
My timezone is UTDC+07. What is yours?
Nam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim in 't Veld" <tim at dvlop.nl>
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Doing Calculus Exam

Nam,
Braille display:
When equations are complicated, they just become too long to have them
read and memorize them. Not to mention that solving the equations with
only speech output is extremely difficult and you're very likely to
introduce errors in the process. The consensus is that you'll need
either braille on paper or on a braille display if you want to have any
hope of successfully dealing with mathematical equations, and even if
you have this it is extremely challenging to avoid making mistakes when
solving long equations. You just lack the overview other students get
visually.
As Ryan mentions, Mathtype from Design Science could help you if your
professors write a lot of equations in word equation editor. Mathtype
will convert Word equations to lateX which is readable for blind users.

I have a few other tips for you but no time to write this all down; if
you want we can talk on Skype (my skype name is timveld).
Tim

On 4/13/2012 8:29 AM, Duong Tuan Nam wrote:
> Dear all,
> Tim, Your guess is right. I'm from Vietnam.
> I am a freshman at computer science in Ho Chi Minh International 
> University.
> My school has two programs of study, one is 4 years in Vietnam, and the
> other is attendance the first two years in Vietnam and then study in 
> another
> university which links with my school. In the US, there are Illinois, 
> Rutgers, Houston which link to my school. I am currently atending in the 
> first program, 4 year in Vietnam.
> I do want to study in the US. However, to family, the course for study in
> the US is quite expensive. So I will soon try to search a scholarship at 
> those universities linking with my school.
> How do you ordinarily do your mathematical assignments?
> I've done some assignments and use text editor, but it need a long time to 
> finish. However, my professor seems not hard to check students' homework. 
> Most of my friends do their assignments by writing solusion on
> book. And it's still ok. My homework has not been corrected as well.
> How do your professors produce exams?
> in physics, my professor use Microsoft Equation to do it. In Dcalculus is
> maybe the same way. But I am not sure for this.
> I am using Jaws 12. I don't know what benefits of Braille display when we 
> have
> screen reader? Can you explain me?
>
> Ryan, now I don't have Braille text book at all. I ask my friends and my 
> siblings read the lectures of my professors' (in Power Point or PDF) when 
> they have freetime. And I find it is not enough for me to study, because 
> they don't have much freetime to help me. And the Alecture is the summary 
> of the text book. My school study calculus in James Stewart - Calculus 5th 
> Edition.
>
> I think the big chance is I won't pass the two subjects this time but I 
> try with the lack of many things. It's nearly the midterm exam.
>
> Nam
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kandi Lukowski" 
> <Kandi.Lukowski at wssb.wa.gov>
> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Doing Calculus Exam
>
>
> I agree with Tim. Here in the US we do produce exams in a format the 
> student is most comfortable with. We are a transcribing agency and do many 
> different exams for numerous states - both at the k-12 and university 
> level.
>
>
> Kandi Lukowski
> Braille Coordinator
> Ogden Resource Center
> 2310 East 13th Street
> Vancouver, WA 98661
> Phone: 360-696-6321 ext. 158
> Fax: 360-737-2120
> Email: braille at wssb.wa.gov
>
> Hours:
> Mon-Thurs - 7:30-4:00 pm
> Fri - 7:00-3:30 pm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Ryan Hemphill
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:30 AM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Doing Calculus Exam
>
> Question for you.  Who publishes your math/physics textbooks?  This might 
> be important to making a case.  Maybe your teacher needs some support as 
> well. Does anyone know a vendor that would take care of reproducing an 
> exam in the Braille format or software that would pump it out in some way?
> I'm also curious about this on a personal basis.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Tim in 't Veld <tim at dvlop.nl> wrote:
>
>> Buong,
>> In my university (Utrecht university, Netherlands) all professors
>> produce their exams in lateX, so I can just take the standard exams
>> (as long as no images are involved) and do them on my computer.
>> However, if you don´t have a braille display I don´t see how you could
>> do university level mathematics on a computer.
>> What is your field of study and in which university are you enrolled?
>> How do you ordinarily do your mathematical assignments? How do your
>> professors produce exams?
>>
>> In Europe and the United States universities would be required
>> (usually by
>> law) to provide you with the exam in a format that is accessible for
>> you but I get the impression you are from somewhere in Asia where
>> resources and legal protection may be more limited.
>> Tim
>>
>> On 4/12/2012 8:19 AM, Duong Tuan Nam wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I need to ask my teacher to organize the calculus and physics exam for 
>>> me.
>>> My university doesn't have Braille meterials as well as the
>>> accessible tool for the blind.
>>> Could anyone tell me how did you do the exam?
>>> Fews days ago, I thought I may do on computer, use test editor. But I
>>> try it and I feel difficult because I can't move the cursor as fast
>>> as my fingers on Braille. And it's slower to catch all things on the
>>> computer than Braille paper.
>>> For example, if I need to find 4 variation A, B, C, D of a group of 4
>>> equations.
>>> Could anyone give me some advice and tell me your experience?
>>> I much appreciate your help.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> Nam
>>> Duong Tuan Nam
>>> Email: tuannamduong at gmail.com
>>> Yahoo ID: tuannamfriend
>>> Skype Name: duongtuannam1992
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