[Blindmath] Results of Using the Perkins

[Jose Tamayo]

Perhaps!  

Forgive my ignorance and lackof knowledge in this area but I will attempt to
explore some possibilities.  

IF I type all my math in Computer Braille, knowing that I am typing Nemeth
Code, does the software printing the Nemeth code care that it is Nemeth code
at all.  Does the software simply print in Computer Braille whatever has
been entered.  

The recommendation, exception noted below, when using a BrailleNote is to
set the BrailleNote to computer braille.  Of course, the BrailleNote will
not have the Nemeth code spoken but when you use your finger to read the
Braille, you are reading what you expected to write; regardless of what the
BrailleNote  says.  

With the BrailleNote MPower BT32, which is the one I have, there is a bug
with copying and pasting Computer braille and thus copying and pasting is a
problem for users of the BrailleNote and computer braille for entering math.
I was using Computer Braille because it was the only way to get Nemetext to
read the file for LaTeX conversion.  

When using the Braille Display with JAWS, it really does not matter what
JAWS reads (understatement).  I guess my point is that if you  stick to
Computer Braille, you should be ok unless I don't understand the solution.

Please help me understand this issue.

Regards,
Jose Tamayo 


-----Original Message-----
From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:05 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Results of Using the Perkins

The problem with entering nemeth on a notetaker like that is that it is not
actually nemeth. Of course, if you are the only one looking at the file,
then it does not matter at all. However, it will not translate into print,
so you could not turn in such a file as homework or a test since it would
look like random text and characters.

On 2/9/12, Susan Jolly <easjolly at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> This is an attempt to respond to Jose's excellent and clear post.
>
> He wrote correctly "that as long as
> you type in the Nemeth codes using your 6 dot knowledge of Nemeth 
> Braille, it will display on the BrailleNote."
>
> Actually this is true not just of Nemeth but of any braille code.  If 
> you type in contracted braille using your 6 dot knowledge the 
> contracted braille will display on the BrailleNote as well.
>
> What you are typing or writing is actually just the braille cells. 
> What they mean depends on what you think they mean. If you type 
> dots-123456 it could mean "for" or the Nemeth omission symbol or an 
> ASCII equals mark depending on whether you are thinking in contracted
braille or Nemeth math or ASCII.
>
> Some people feel more comfortable entering braille by using the 
> braille keyboard on a Perkins or on a notetaker.  But if you are 
> familiar with your notetaker's computer braille table, you can also 
> enter any desired braille cell via QWERTY, either using a regular 
> keyboard or a QWERTY keyboard on a notetaker.
>
> Using an electronic keyboard is certainly easier on your hands but, as 
> been pointed out previously, one advantage of the Perkins is that it 
> is easier to see several lines or math steps at a time. Of course, if 
> money is no object, one could use a standalone 80-cell braille display 
> which allows you to get several simple math steps on one line.
>
> Sighted people can enter simulated braille from a regular keyboard by 
> typing in computer braille and then using a compatible font to change 
> the appearance from text to braille.  Of course this only works if the 
> font matches up with whatever computer braille table you are using.  
> Duxbury's free SimBraille font is designed to match up with North 
> American ASCII Braille.
>
> SusanJ
>
>
>
>
>
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