[Blindmath] Used Braille College Text Books

Mon Jun 18 17:26:05 UTC 2012

Oh yeah, I definitely noticed after checking in on the details.  It's my
job to fix this problem and I am *definitely* paying attention to this
issue.

I would like to ask a question about the Chemistry --- is that going to
handle the Chemical Reaction math with braille as well?  What formatting
are they using there, do you know?

Ryan

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Lamborn_Michelle <
Lamborn_Michelle at asdk12.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> We had a high school student taking a Chemistry class here and her
> textbook book wasn't available anywhere. APH worked with us to get her book
> to us and only charged us $1,000! We were surprised that a science book
> with so much math and tactiles could cost us so little. We asked if there
> was a mistake they made on the price and they told us that it cost their
> agency $50,000 to make the book. We were very fortunate on the price and
> the book was so well made! Again this title was unavailable anywhere else.
> I looked at APH for the Calculus title below and there are 3 agencies that
> can provide that book in braille. It might be worthwhile for Tammy to get
> in touch with them to get a price.
> Ryan, you might be interested to know that the Calculus book is listed at
> Cengage Learning? I know that Tammy said the publisher is Brooks Cole. I'm
> in no way being critical, I think it's great that you and Cengage are on
> this list listening to how difficult getting textbooks can be!
> For the Chemistry book, I could only find it in an ebook and in audio from
> Learning Ally. Since it's not available in braille, Tammy could also
> inquire at APH. She would hopefully be as lucky as we were.
> Michelle
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Ryan Hemphill
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:11 AM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Used Braille College Text Books
>
> I just looked up some examples here.  It's pricey, no doubt, but the range
> is not 50k, the worst I see is around 5k.  Still crazy, but not 50k crazy.
>
> See below...
>
>
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/find.html?mv_session_id=c2RGk5gT&mv_action=search&mv_form_profile=search_type&w=Calculus&c=&mv_click=Go
>
> I would also like to mention that you may have grounds for a lawsuit here.
>  I don't like being a troublemaker (most of the time) but i think this
> shows some real neglect of the laws around accessible education on the part
> of the school your son is attending.  Penn State just got nailed big time
> about their accessibility issues, so it isn't going out on a limb to say
> that this school is subject to the same ruling.
>
> Incidentally, I would like to thank you for bringing this up.  The work
> that I am doing is designed to convert math to Braille online and make the
> price of an electronic textbook no different for the blind than it would be
> for a sighted user.  Seeing the prices for texts, something I hadn't even
> investigated, shows me just how important it is to make this happen.
>
> Thanks for inadvertently providing me with additional incentive to complete
> my work.
>
>
> Ryan.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 16, 2012, Ryan Hemphill <ryanhemphill.email at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would agree. It sounds Ike someone is very very misinformed.  If you
> think about it logically, there is no way that anyone would ever make any
> textbook in Braille at that price, ever.  Of course that isn't the case, my
> company outsources this regularly.
> >
> >
> >
> > If it sounds wrong, it probably is.  Go directly to the source, the book
> publisher, and find out from them.  Then, correct whoever is claiming this
> misinformation.
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, which school is this that we're talking about
> here?
> >
> > Ran
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012, Susan Mooney <susanannemooney at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Where in the world is the university procuring the textbooks?  Does that
> >> not seem a bit on the high side for you?  Most of the time the
> >> instructors/profs will not use the entire text.  Perhaps the instructor
> can
> >> outline which portions of the text s/he will be using and get only those
> >> portions transcribed?  As a transcriber, I've done this many times.
>  That
> >> figure is absolutely crazy.
> >>
> >> SM
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Tammy Berg <tdberg72 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My son will be attending a private university in the fall and we have
> just
> >>> been notified that they will not be able to provide his texts books in
> >>> Braille due to the cost of $50,000-$60,000 per text that they were
> quoted
> >>> for having them converted to Braille. Are there any resources for used
> >>> Braille math and science college text books.
> >>> The texts that he will be using in the fall are:
> >>> Calculus, 6th Edition
> >>> James Stewart
> >>> ISBN-13978-0495011668
> >>> Publiser: Brooks Cole
> >>> Chemistry
> >>> The Molecular View of Nature, 6th Edition
> >>> Jespersen, Brady, Hyslop
> >>> Publisher:  Wiley University Physics
> >>> by Young & Freedman 13th edition 2012
> >>> Publishers: Addison & Wesley
> >>> Thank You - Tammy
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