[Blindmath] requesting for procedure regarding svg draw.

Sun Jan 20 05:58:56 UTC 2013

Dear Amanda,

Thanks for asking this question. This device is a tactile input device. Say a drawing device for the visually challenged people. The device lets users to themselves draw a shape into a standard application such as word, excel, PowerPoint or Visio. 

By shape I mean all the standard shapes that a sighted user can draw. It is indeed difficult to draw these shapes in the said applications with the help of a screen reader even today. Hence this device was made. This device will take all necessary details from you in the form of tactile keys and draw the shape into desired application without the need of opening that application. Also the user here need not be required to be too knowledgeable about Cartesian co ordinate system or geometry.

Meaning that if one were to draw a triangle (right angled), on the device has a triangle shape symbol displayed in 3d so that the user may himself feel, then the user shall use the tactile control panel to enter the vertices. And that's it the shape shall automatically be drawn into a word file after which the user can copy paste the shape any where he wants. 

This input device is a subset of the tactile display which further helps the user in comprehending the diagrams shapes in a tactile way. It can also directly show the existing shapes if any in your word or excel files on the tactile display. There is some small amount of work left before I can share more details about the tactile display on the list.

How the device works can be explained in detail if in case required by any one on their personal emails.

Kiran S Deshpande

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On 20-Jan-2013, at 3:13 AM, "Amanda Lacy" <lacy925 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What is this new device exactly? Is it a tablet? The description is unclear.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiran" <Kiran at persiontechnologies.com>
> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] requesting for procedure regarding svg draw.
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> 
>> Dear raju,
>> 
>> There is nothing wrong in sending this mail to the list I guess. You need not worry about your language too.
>> 
>> Now to answer you, if u are using jaws or NVDA I doubt that even in word one can not draw the shapes in word though they are available as standard shapes under the insert option. Members may correct me If I am wrong. Similarly there are flow chart objects like decision or any other process which can not be inserted in a word file. So in svg draw program there are no ways of creating these other polygons or shapes that you are referring to like the triangle easily, I mean if you know your co ordinate system may be then you can draw a few shapes but I think one has to be an expert in geometries to use svg draw to draw a shape other than one which is provided.
>> 
>> Alternatively you can look at the following website to learn about a new device that shall cater to all your needs of inputting diagrams.
>> 
>> Www.persiontechnologies.com/Kerria.html
>> 
>> This is a device that shall be a tactile device capable of inputting any shape in a standard word excel, Visio or PowerPoint application without the need of any other application.
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Kiran S Deshpande
>> 
>> Director Innovatin & Research
>> Innovation Unit,
>> Persion technologies pvt ltd.
>> Pune
>> 
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>> On 19-Jan-2013, at 10:10 AM, raju singh <bidhwin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>              respected sirs.
>>> 
>>> i am raju singh, one of the regular reader of blind mailing list,
>>> residing in darjeeling india,  doing b c a.
>>> first of all, i would like to apologize  all of you cause i know that
>>> i'm asking such a silly question here. but i hope that i will be
>>> fulfilled with lots of valuable response by you sirs.
>>> sir, there is an extra subject called mathematics on our syllebus, and
>>> i'm dealing this subject with less equipment such as neither i have
>>> braille display device, nor i have scientific calculator or scientific
>>> notebook.  i'm using the old tailer frame to calculate, and spare will
>>> to draw the shape on the peace of paper. sighted friend is doing such
>>> an accelent job for me by helping me to draw the shape with spare will
>>> whatever our teacher draw on black board while giving the lecture
>>> regarding mathematic. now, by the suggestion of this mailing list,
>>> i've started to use svg draw and the voic on my laptop. now i'm
>>> wandering that by using this software how one can draw the any shape,
>>> such as triangle, right angled triangle, parallelogram, or any shape
>>> which is not included on the draw menu regardless of some shape which
>>> can be draw by pressing the keystrokes such as ctrl+r for rect angle,
>>> ctrl+l for line,  etc. does we have to learn the svg programming in
>>> order to draw the shape which is not included in draw menu? i have
>>> spent few hour reading this .htm file which comes from svg draw
>>> packege which has blunder of instruction for proper use of this
>>> software, but i really could not grasp any thing from there. i even
>>> could not understand the sound language producing by voic for various
>>> shape, but  i'm adjusting myself with voic by spending  of some
>>> leasure hour by listening various in built shape. i had to write this
>>> request cause i read some where in this mailing list that some one is
>>> suggesting that chart can also be drawn by using this software.
>>> 
>>> sir, i will be very greatful to all, if if you can provide the
>>> tutorial in simpler manner, or audio demonstration of this svg drawing
>>> software, as i believe that this software is our life line!
>>> 
>>> and lastly i would like to conclude this mail that if this mail seems
>>> to have such wrong or undigestable thing, moderator has the full
>>> advantage to remove this threat!
>>> 
>>> your stupid friend, raju.
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