[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Andy B. sonfire11 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 20:14:18 UTC 2013


Do you think it would help in a geometry section of a college algebra class?
I wish I could see something like this that was made with a 3d printer. Any
ideas on how to get my hands on some shapes?



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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda
Lacy
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Pretty well, actually. I'm not quite finished with calculus III, but the
shapes were very useful for understanding concepts like traces. They were
very well done - you could actually feel the traces. Maybe the student could
get some of these made?
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> How well did this turn out?
>
>
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> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Amanda Lacy
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
>
> I have some hypercool 3D calculus shapes representing functions with 
> two independent variables which were produced on a 3D Printer.
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>>I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented 
>>into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's 
>>in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a 
>>3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I 
>>would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important
> coordinates.
>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
>>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.
>>>
>>> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH, 
>>> nor am I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically 
>>> speaking, 3-D graphing may be OK for low vision students but not 
>>> appropriate for braille readers because depth information is not 
>>> possible to be represented in tactile graphics."
>>>
>>> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
>>>
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>>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
>>> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
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>>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
>>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with 
>>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper 
>>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they 
>>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know 
>>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mary Woodyard
>>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>>
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>>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
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>>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>>> www.access2science.com
>>>
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>>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
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>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
>>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>>> J
>>>
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>>> Hi,
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>>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
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>>>
>>> Paul Chapin
>>> Academic Technology Specialist
>>> Amherst College
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>>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
>>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
>>> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
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>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>>
>>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>>
>>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time 
>>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a 
>>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount 
>>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much, 
>>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
this.
>>>
>>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>>
>>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>>
>>> Andrew Stacey
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>>> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring 
>>> to the paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph 
>>> board from aph
>>>
>>> Maureen Lewicki
>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>>> Delmar, NY 12054
>>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
>>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
>>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with 
>>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper 
>>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they 
>>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know 
>>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mary Woodyard
>>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>>
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>>> MathML support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
>>> From: "John Gardner"
>>> <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
>>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
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>>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>>> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
>>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Paul Chapin
>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
>>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>>>
>>> Paul Chapin
>>> Academic Technology Specialist
>>> Amherst College
>>> X2144
>>>
>>> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including 
>>> by email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost 
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>>> From: Andrew Stacey
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>>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>>
>>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>>
>>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time 
>>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a 
>>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount 
>>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much, 
>>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
this.
>>>
>>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>>
>>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>>
>>> Andrew Stacey
>>>
>>>
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