[Blindmath] MathML and VOiceOver?

Bill Dengler codeofdusk at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 19:36:31 UTC 2015


The math is read twice, sometimes three times when say all is used.
The math should only be read once.
Unfortunately, I can’t give a very detailed explanation for what happens on Stackexchange. The page jumping issues are very random. It always occurs (it should never occur), but the location where the curser goes seems random. Sometimes to the beginning of the page, other times just seemingly any position.

Bill
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:07 PM, White, Jason J <jjwhite at ets.org> wrote:
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>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 13:51, Bill Dengler via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> I’m running OS X 10.11.2.
>> It seems that when VoiceOver encounters MathMl on a page, say all behaves unexpectedly.
> 
> Try my simple mathematical examples here, which are written in MathML: http://jasonjgw.net/mathematical-examples.html
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>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. GO to http://enwp.org/special:preferences
>> 2. Click the appearance tab.
>> 3. In The math section, select "MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools)”
>> 4. Click save.
>> 5. Go to http://enwp.org/ackermann_function
>> Perform a say all.
> 
> You explained the steps to reproduce clearly, but not the actual result and the expected result. What happens if you use VoiceOver’s navigation commands (Ctrl-Option-Left and Right-arrow) to read the text and the mathematical expressions? You should be able to interact with the mathematical expressions and then read them.
>> On other sites, MathML is not focusable; when VO encounters it the focus jumps to somewhere else on the page, making it difficult to read (or skip) the math. For example: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/253997/how-to-find-the-sum-of-an-alternating-series
>> Any ideas?
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> Write to accessibility at apple.com with a slightly more detailed report that explains what you observe happening and what you think should happen.
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