[Blindmath] Audio books

[Louis Maher]

Braille will solve these issues for you although it might take time to learn
it.  I used Braille for all my mathematics.
I transcribed my taped science and math books into Braille so that I could
study them.  It took several hours a day to do this.  It took a year to
transcribe a book.  I had a little vision, and I could see the equations,
one letter at a time, through a ten power lens.  That is how I could detect
the grouping of symbols which is difficult to do from sound alone.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net


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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anna via
Blindmath
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:22 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Cc: annajee82 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Audio books

It is hard for me to learn by listening.  I am a newly blind person, so I am
still adjusting and used to using my vision for things like this.  Since
this does not work well for me anymore, I am trying to find what does.
Listening is hard for me,  I really wish I could use braille more, cause
this works much better for me, however, as I just wrote in a previous reply,
I am unable to use braille very much.  So I am basically stuck with
listening. 
What I have come accross so far is that when technical things come up I have
to keep navigating back and relistening to the same thing over and over and
over.  Where as visually I would have looked at, for example, "sigma of Xsub
I from I =2 to I =4"
and had it written down in approx. 5 seconds, I had to keep rewinding with
the audio book (which in this case was 10 seconds back each time) to get
exactly what the reader was saying, when he was saying numbers or
something...
How can I get through multiple classes at this speed?  I don't think I can.
Using a reader for problem sets is good.  But in a math book, the majority
of the material is technical and detailed, and hard for me to follow without
constant repetition...
Does that answer the question?
Thanks

Anna E Givens


> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Smith, Andrew via Blindmath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, what exactly don't you find helpful about the audiobooks from 
> Learning Ally?  I have found them to be quite helpful indeed, since 
> graphs, images and other mathematical objects are described.  I have 
> found that they don't always have the exact textbook you need.  In my 
> case, for instance, they haven't had any of the exact books we've 
> needed yet.  In this situation I just picked a similar book.  For 
> instance, when I took calculus, I grabbed Ron Larson's calculus books.
> Calculus is calculus no matter how you slice it, so I figured it would 
> be "good enough."  For problem sets, I use a reader or have a friend 
> read me the problems.  I, too,  find working with people to be a bit 
> frustrating so I do what I can on my own.  Although the books can be 
> slow, most DAISY readers offer an option to adjust the speed.  Since 
> I'm used to reading at a very high speed with JAWS, VoiceOver etc, I 
> adjusted the speed to fit my preference.
> 
> Hope this might help some.
> Happy 2016!
> 
>> On 12/31/15, Anna via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I have been trying to use an audio book for the first time.  It is 
>> for a statistics class I have to take. It was recommended to me to 
>> use an audio book read by a person, so I got one from Learning Ally.  
>> In the last semester I was trying to use JAWS and some combination of 
>> my vision and listening to science and math on the computer.  It did not
go well at all.
>> So I am trying the audio book but I am quickly realizing....This is 
>> going to take forever...
>> Using a reader and/or tutor seems the most efficient option.  I have 
>> some, although not very much experience with working with people like 
>> this. I find it difficult.  I guess I am just looking for support and 
>> other people's experience.
>> Have you used audio books for math?  How did it go?
>> Have you used a reader?  How was that?
>> How much time did you have to spend just reading through the book 
>> with the reader?  How did you reference the book or related material 
>> when you are not with your reader? How did you study on your own time?
>> Any relevant information i can get on this would be helpful.  Thank 
>> you and Happy New Years.
>> 
>> Anna E Givens
>> 
>> 
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