[Blindmath] Capital letters in MathType equations?

Mon Jan 9 22:55:12 UTC 2017

As Lois indicated, you can edit the expression in MathType and add a
preference so that it says "cap" instead of doing a pitch change. That will
work for NVDA+MathPlayer in Word. If you have multiple equations that you
want to change the behavior for, you can use the MathType tab in Word and
choose "Format Equations" and load the preference there to change all the
selected equations' speech or the entire document.

If you never want the pitch change (e.g, because your speech engine doesn't
do pitch changes), then you can change the MathPlayer rule itself. In
(probably)
C:\Dev\Cosmo\MathPlayer4\EqnLib\rules\pvt\en\ClearSpeak-unicode.tdl, look
for the two occurrences of
    && find_attribute(match, pref::Caps, "Auto")=="SayCaps"
and delete those characters (leave the rest of the line there). Save the
file and you should now hear "cap ..." for capital roman letters. It's a
little messier for other cases. For the other cases, do a global (within
the same file as before) find and replace of
     find_attribute(match, pref::Caps, "Auto")!="SayCaps" ? "" : "cap ")
with
    "cap "

What these changes do is remove the Caps Auto as a preference from
MathPlayer and always say "Cap" for capital letters.

Note: in case you weren't aware, you can change the default speech
synthesizer that NVDA uses from espeak to one of the MS speech engines.
Those speech engines, like the eloquence speech engine used by JAWS (which
also uses pitch change for caps by default) do support the pitch change for
capital letters. If the pitch change is too subtle, you can increase the
pitch change (look for "change=130" in that file). From the espeak
documentation, it should support pitch change but NVDA might not be
supporting it with espeak.

I hope this helps,

Neil Soiffer

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Frankel, Lois E via Blindmath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> The preferences set when creating or editing an equation in MathType
> should be honored by supported browsers if the document is output using
> MathPage to an html file. That is, the preference-settings "live" in the
> MathML. There are some limitations for IE in particular. Neil Soiffer would
> be better able to describe what works in what browsers.
>
> BTW, I did notice that while the rule does change pitch for capital
> letters in the Roman alphabet, Greek letters do not get the pitch-change
> treatment, nor (I think) do other alphabets such as Fractur.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mathieu Barbe via Blindmath
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 4:48 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Mathieu Barbe
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Capital letters in MathType equations?
>
> Hi Frankel,
> if I understand what you say, to configure math player, we can use
> preference-settings  in math type.
> In this case, maybe that preference-setting in math type can modifing math
> player behavior in Internet Explorer?
> Thanks, Mathieu
>
>
> Le 09/01/2017 22:33, Frankel, Lois E via Blindmath a écrit :
> > Speech for capital letters in MathPlayer is governed by two
> preference-settings in MathType:
> >
> > Caps_Auto is the default and should use a pitch-change to indicate the
> capitals. However, not there may be voices that do not handle pitch-change
> commands well.
> >
> > Caps_SayCaps will say "Cap" before each capital letter.
> >
> > This information is pulled from the document: http://www.dessci.com/en/
> reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/ClearSpeakRulesAndPreferences.
> docx, which describes all ClearSpeak conventions used by MathPlayer.
> >
> > Preferences for math expressions are set by MathType. Instructions are
> > here:
> > http://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/defa
> > ult.htm#authoring_guides
> >
> > If you do not find the relevant preferences in you installation of
> MathType, you may also need to download and install them:
> http://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/
> AllEQPFiles.zip. Instructions for the installation (which simply involves
> extracting the files to any location you like) are here:
> >
> > http://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/defa
> > ult.htm#authoring_guides
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Aqil Sajjad via Blindmath
> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:45 PM
> > To: Blind Math
> > Cc: Aqil Sajjad
> > Subject: [Blindmath] Capital letters in MathType equations?
> >
> > I am using NVDA to read MathType equations in MS word. I also have
> MathPlayer installed. NVDA is not reading capital letters differently from
> lower case letters. This is happening for both Greek and English letters
> inside equations. Is there a solution?
> >
> >
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