[BlindMath] College math questions

Derek Scott Riemer Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu
Sat Jul 7 05:21:24 UTC 2018


Try talking to them about getting a math student to hire on from your
school to do transcription. Math students already know the codes, and so
they can do this very well once trained. You'll need to be patient, and I
recommend a mixture of la tex and braille/ASCII. You can use la tex for
some things, but believe me when I say don't even try to do matrices in la
tex and work with them. Since they are two dimensional, you really will
benefit from paper because you can feel the whole matrix. For this, I
needed transcribers. I simply didn't have time to turn my braille into la
tex (I was able to figure out how based on feedback from this list and
resources like the wikibook but it was just lots of manual labor). I used
nemeth for most of Calc, a mixture of nemeth and la tex for various
assignments. Ask your prof for their assignment, see if they have it in la
tex. They might have it in word or handwritten, if so, DSO will need to
convert it, or a human will need to read it). I used mathtype, this is
often easier for a DSO office to translate things into. The good old
alt+backslash trick converts to la tex for selected text in word (It's
wordey la tex, I.e. {X}^{2}} would be x^2, so be prepared for that). Then
you can copy the text out to a txt/other format if you like. Remember, NVDA
can read mathplayer and mathtype (because it can work with mathml through
math player). It shows you braille and speech, and don't forget to read the
mathplayer keyboard shortcuts reference.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Carlos Garcia via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Thank you all for the help you have already provided; I am very enlightened
> already.
> I'd like to provide some additional information that may be helpful. I will
> be majoring in economics and/or math at the university of Pennsylvania.
> That means I will have to take at least two semesters of calculus, along
> with a statistics course.
> Also, I have been in contact with the disability services office at Penn, ,
> and they said they can provide a Braille transcriber. However, they will
> have to contract with a third party, as they don't have someone on staff.
> This makes me think that transcribing services may be slower. Regardless,
> I'd like to learn to use a markup language to prepare for the very real
> possibility of becoming a math major.
> Thank you all,
> Carlos
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:23 AM, John G Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> > I think easily the best place to start learning latex is with the
> wikibook.
> > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX
> >
> > Latex is one of those things that takes an hour to start and a lifetime
> to
> > master.
> >
> >
> > On 07/05/2018 09:38 PM, Carlos Garcia via BlindMath wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> My name is Carlos, and I will be starting to study math in college this
> >> fall. Up until this point, I have used the standard braille writer  and
> >> paper to do math. As I won't have access to a transcriber like I did in
> >> High school, I'd like to begin using more computer-based resources. I
> use
> >> A
> >> PC with NVDA as my screen reader. I am at the moment attempting to learn
> >> LaTex, although I don't know where to begin in terms of programs to
> >> download or tutorials to follow. Could any of you offer any guidance on
> >> where to begin?
> >> Besides that, are there any other resources I should look into?
> >> Thanks in advanced,
> >> Carlos
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